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[edit] Bealings pages and Fact template

Hi. I've added references to the Little Bealings site, and deleted the fact template markers. However, I do think you're being a little over-zealous in adding these requests for citation. If you check Wikipedia:Citing sources you'll see that it gives 5 examples of where sources should be cited:

3.1 When adding material that is challenged or likely to be challenged

3.2 When quoting someone

3.3 When adding material to the biography of a living person

3.4 When checking content added by others

3.5 When uploading an image

None of these apply in the case of the population of Little Bealings. These kind of facts (where someone simply knows it's correct) appear on wikipedia all the time. See for example Wikipedia. It says "Its name is a portmanteau of the words wiki (a technology for creating collaborative websites) and encyclopedia." Can that be proven? Do we have a citation to prove it? No in either case. We assume that, unless someone challenges it, that it's accurate and was information by someone who knows what they're talking about. In the case of Little Bealings, I do, because I live near there and I'm secretary of the PArish Plan, which uses information of this sort.

Please do not add citation required tags unless one of the 5 criteria above is true. Thanks. --Phil Holmes (talk) 13:53, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Doesn't 3.4 apply? Maybe I am being over-zealous, it's probably a habit picked up from my academic background where pretty much everything has to be referenced. Dancarney (talk) 14:45, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Possibly - but the guidance says "You can also add sources for material you did not write. Adding citations is an excellent way to contribute to Wikipedia". The implication here is that if you can corroborate material already added by another person by adding a citation yourself, then this is a Good Thing. There's no implication that you have to request a citation when you read a non-referenced fact.--Phil Holmes (talk) 15:02, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Fair enough. However, I think that 3.1 applies to the following you've de-tagged from Great Bealings "...a hump back bridge which is sufficiently "humped" to be the cause of accidents to people trying to drive over it too fast." I think a relevant authority may be likely to dispute this. Without a reference it comes across as a POV grumble. Dancarney (talk) 15:12, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
There was a case in the late 80s early 90s when someone decided it was a good place to get some "action" shots of his car (an Escort RS2000) and drove over the bridge fast enough to take off. His mate took photos of him in mid-air, which were subsequently used in the dangerous driving court case. He'd failed to land without hitting an electricity pole, writing the car off, IIRC. His mate was charged with aiding and abetting. However, it was before this sort of reporting was on the web, so it's just my memory. It's certainly not intended to be a grumble - more an interesting feature of the area.--Phil Holmes (talk) 15:27, 15 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Infobox UK place

Not sure if it's because you didn't notice, or that you have a different browser, but when you added the infobox to East Bergholt, the article text only started at the bottom of the infobox because of the right-alignment of the Constable picture (like this). I've moved the constable painting to lower down so now the whitespace has disappeared.

Anyway, aside from letting you know, I wondered if you might know how to fix it. Putting pictures immediately below the template doesn't seem to work with Infobox UK place (I had to fix Lavenham too in the past for the same reason), but it is a useful thing to do. Cheers, пﮟოьεԻ 57 11:01, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

I hadn't noticed this as it's not a problem in Firefox. I have no idea how this would be fixed other than by moving the picture or changing its alignment. A separate problem I've experienced is that the use of a Gallery near to an infobox causes a right mess if your browser window is too small, with the pictures going over the top of the infobox. Have a look at Little Bealings for an example. Any ideas about that? Dancarney (talk) 11:29, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
My browser just moves the pictures to beneath the infobox, with a massive amount of whitespace after the heading. Even if the proper gallery arrangement is used, it still does the same thing. I've tried to fix it using a square gallery. пﮟოьεԻ 57 12:09, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Norfolk article

Hi, you've suggested that a citation is needed for the assertion that the Shoreline Management Plan hasn't been adopted by the local authorities, but the evidence is within the web page at reference No. 6. I thought that adding 2 links to the same web page in one sentence would be overkill. Proclaimer (talk) 16:26, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

I've moved the citation to the end of the sentence where it makes more sense. Dancarney (talk) 06:37, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

OK. Thanks :) Proclaimer (talk) 10:35, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Request to move article Duncan Ferguson (footballer) incomplete

You recently filed a request at Wikipedia:Requested moves to move the page Duncan Ferguson (footballer) to a different title - however your proposal is either incomplete or has been contested as being controversial. As a result, it has been moved to the incomplete and contested proposals section. Requests that remain incomplete after five days will be removed.

Please make sure you have completed all three of the following:

  1. Added {{move|NewName}} at the top of the talk page of the page you want moved, replacing "NewName" with the new name for the article. This creates the required template for you there.
  2. Added {{subst:RMtalk|NewName|reason for move}} to the bottom of the talk page of the page you want to be moved, to automatically create a discussion section there.
  3. Added {{subst:RMlink|PageName|NewName|reason for move}} to the top of today's section here.

If you need any further guidance, please leave a message at Wikipedia talk:Requested moves or contact me on my talk page. - JPG-GR (talk) 18:18, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AFC Sudbury - highest score?

Hi. Just had a quick look at Tony Kempsters site, and it seems the Suds beat Harwich & Parkeston 10-0 away in 2002-03 in the Eastern Counties Premier - that looks like their biggest win so far. Their biggest defeat appears to 2-6 at home to Lowestoft in 2001-02, or 1-5 away to Histon in 1999-2000 and again against Wroxham in the 2003-04 season. Hope this helps! Bettia (talk) 14:17, 29 May 2008 (UTC)