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[edit] Italics

In the interests of avoiding back-and-forth changes, I think this note should be italicized, because it's like a colophon or textual note in that it's a comment about the text, not part of the article proper; like one of those disambig notes at the top, which are also italicized. I observe that the 1911EB and other old encyclopedia notes are italicized as well, presumably for the same reason. Stan 01:43, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Done. --Woohookitty(cat scratches) 15:42, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category

Should this template include its own Category, such as [[Category:DANFS content articles]]? I noticed the 1911EB has such a tag.--J Clear 13:23, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Pages on which this templates is used are now added to Category:Wikipedia articles incorporating text from the Dictionary of American Naval Fighting Ships, per a request on WP:AN – Gurch 20:27, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edit request

{{editprotected}} Please change this template to remove Category:Wikipedia articles incorporating text from the Dictionary of American Naval Fighting Ships and place a noinclude note on the template page to add {{DANFS talk}} to articles tagged with DANFS. See the category page and Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_April_15#Category:Wikipedia_articles_incorporating_text_from_the_Dictionary_of_American_Naval_Fighting_Ships. Once this is done, someone who owns a bot will complete the transition. -N 20:29, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Done. Cheers. --MZMcBride 00:35, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edit request

{{editprotected}} Please add the wikiproject category [[Category:WikiProject Ships templates|{{PAGENAME}}]] to this template inside the noinclude. Maralia 03:13, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Done! TomTheHand 13:24, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Link parameter added

I have added a parameter to the DANFS template based on discussion at WP:SHIPS. It accepts an external link to a DANFS entry. If you don't provide a parameter, and simply use {{DANFS}}, it gives the same result as before:

This article includes text from the public domain Dictionary of American Naval Fighting Ships.

Using {{DANFS|http://www.history.navy.mil/danfs/i2/iowa-iii.htm}} produces this:

This article includes text from the public domain Dictionary of American Naval Fighting Ships. The entry can be found here.

Let me know if you have any questions or comments. TomTheHand 13:49, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

I like it a lot because it can often eliminate the need for the External link heading in the article which just makes for a cleaner looking article. How about doing the same for {{NVR}} ? And while I'm demanding things, how about making both {{NVR}} and {{DANFS}} capable of accepting dual links? Dual links can point to two DANFS articles when you have one ship that carried dual names during it's career. --Brad (talk) 22:06, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
I can do both of those, but it may be a few days; if someone else wants to attack it first, please feel free. Does DANFS really have separate articles when a ship's name gets changed? TomTheHand (talk) 22:28, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
I don't think I've ever seen separate entries on the same ship. On a different note, though, Gatoclass recently mentioned that history.navy.mil links often don't work for him, so I suppose there could be an argument for two external links on this template, to accommodate both that site and hazegrey. Maralia (talk) 03:01, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Yes but remember this is the DANFS template, so linking to hazegray via the DANFS template seems out of place. --Brad (talk) 04:07, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Hazegray has an online copy of DANFS. I believe it's a direct transcription of the books, while the Navy's DANFS is a living website that is updated and corrected, so I prefer the Navy's; however, I can see dual Navy/Hazegray links being a good reason to add two link support to the template. I will attack this, and {{NVR}}, this afternoon or evening. TomTheHand (talk) 19:12, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
I can't recall now what ship I was working on where two links would have been required. I think it's safe enough to say that there are very few articles that would ever require links to two different ships on danfs. I've only had the once instance so far; not enough to require a change. --Brad (talk) 04:07, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Just wanted to mention, what I had in mind was something like this: {{DANFS|http://www.history.navy.mil/danfs/i2/iowa-iii.htm|http://www.hazegray.org/danfs/battlesh/bb61.htm}}

Which would result in this:

This article includes text from the public domain Dictionary of American Naval Fighting Ships. The entries can be found here and here.

Does that look alright? Do we want it to be phrased in a way that specifically talks about the Navy's DANFS versus Hazegray's? Of course the extra input would be optional. TomTheHand (talk) 20:46, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Looks good enough for me. Leaving it non-descript allows a dual link and that dual link can either be used for one or both sites, yes? --Brad (talk) 00:39, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, folks, I've been super-busy and haven't been on Wikipedia much lately. I've finally updated this template to accept up to two links, and I'll work on the NVR one next. TomTheHand (talk) 16:45, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

There are instances of DANFS having two articles for the same ship. Named LSTs are the largest group I can think of, with a stub-class article at LST-XXX and a longer article at COUNTY County. E.g. LST-344 and Blanco County. And I've recently seen others like Grampus / A-3 and George M. Bibb / Bibb. Plus, there are DANFS' equivalent of redirects, like "Ginko (YN-65) was renamed Mastic (YN-65) (q.v.) on 17 April 1943."
When converting DANFS articles, I've habitually included links to both history.navy.mil and hazegray.org because I found that they sometimes had differences ... e.g. different sets of typos. :-) Plus, a lot of "B-" articles used to be missing from navy.mil, though that has mostly been fixed.
—WWoods (talk) 16:44, 8 January 2008 (UTC)