Talk:Danilo Dolci

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[edit] Nobel Peace Prize nomination

• He was twice nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.

Being nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize is an honor, but it is not official or even prestigious. Any national legislator or about a third of the university professors in the world can make a nomination, and there have been as many as 140 some years. Nominators are requested to keep their nominations secret, so it's only those wishing publicity who make announcements, and more often it is impossible to verify. I see no reason to keep it. No offense to the subject, this is a general Nobel Peace Prize "nominees" issue. -Will Beback · † · 09:53, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

I see a reason to keep it. This article is about the person Danilo Dolci, not about the merits of nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize. The fact that people or organisations have nominated Dolci tells you something about the personality of this man, which is exactly the purpose of this article. I suggest you add your remark to the article on the Nobel Peace Prize where it might be more usefull. - Mafia Expert 15:02, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

The subject is not in the database of nominees that have been made public, as of now up to the year 1955. Perhaps he'll appear in later years as those are made public. I'd be happy to see it added once it becomes verifiable. -Will Beback · † · 07:13, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

I do not agree with you unilaterally deleting the Nobel Peace Prize nomination. The fact that you did not see it, does not mean that it did not happen. It is in most biographies of Danili Dolci outside Wikipedia, and looks rather stupid if it is not mentioned in Wikipedia, damaging the credibility of the project. So, please refrain from deleting it, thanks. - Mafia Expert 11:34, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean by "most biographies". It isn't mentioned by any of the three biographies that we link to under "external links". If being nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize were a great and rare honor then that'd be different. But, as I wrote above, it is not rare and it does not have any particular criteria. Since any national legislator and any college humanities professor may make the nomination it is common (at least nowadays) for there to be over a hundred nominations a year. Adolf Hitler was nominated, a murder on death row was nominated, a car dealer from Ohio has claimed to be nominated, as has a faith healer from Brazil. Being awarded the prize is a great honor, being nominated is not. In some rare cases the nominators make their nominations public and they become the topic of public controversy. In those instances the nominations themselves are made newsworthy. Call it the "Stanley Williams" exception. But even that isn't a club that most would want to join. In the case of this subject, he has received more concrete forms of recognition and actually received prestigious awards. Mentioning an award that he didn't get, and for which we can't even verify his nomination, does not add to the reputation of the subject or of this encyclopedia. -Will Beback · † · 12:06, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

If you would google you would find them, most are in Italian. Anyway, I added the organisation that nominated him twice, the American Friends Service Committee (AFSC), which in 1947 received the Nobel Peace Prize along with the British Friends Service Council, now called Quaker Peace and Social Witness, on behalf of all Quakers worldwide. I hope that is "credible" enough. To figure that out took about 30 seconds, which you could easily have done yourself since you think it is such a big issue. Your reputation and credibility on Nobel Peace Prize matters is something I would question strongly after this case. - Mafia Expert 12:33, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

The burden of finding sources is on those who wish to add assertions. I posted fair notice of my intention to remove the material several weeks ago, but no one added any sources to verify the material. As I wrote on your talk page, I think the AFSC is an exception to the usual anonymous nominations that are claimed on most pages, both because they are verifiable and because they are made selectively by a reputable group. Now that a suitable source has been added I do not object to the assertion of the nomination. -Will Beback · † · 22:41, 12 January 2007 (UTC)