Talk:Daniel Kane

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[edit] WP: Notability

These articles all follow the same generic template: blah blah is a winner of (insert contest here), (insert contest here), and (insert contest here). Attended/is attending (insert university here) from (year) to (year) etc.

No doubt IMO, Putnam, etc. are significant competitions. But do we really need a separate article for every such winner? Might as well wait until they become professors and have actually published some papers, or made some other contribution to academia/society instead of simply winning a contest. Not to mention that these contests are directed towards the undergraduate/high school level.

See Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Tiankai_Liu and Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Yi_Sun for other similar articles that passed AfD and were deleted for non-notability.

- Wikipedian06 07:24, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

While I am not entirely unbiased, being a former Putnam Fellow myself, it seems to me that requiring a college math contest winner to become a professor before getting a Wikipedia page would be roughly equivalent to Wikipedia deciding not to cover March Madness winners until they go on to become successful college basketball coaches later in their careers. The criterion for being sufficiently notable to merit one's own Wikipedia page is supposed to be appearance (usually repeated) in secondary sources--a relatively objective criterion. Some of these math contest winners do meet that criterion. Evaluating the quality of someone's "contributions to society" is a much more subjective criterion and not (IMHO) suitable for deciding who gets a Wikipedia page. That said, it must also be noted that, as others have noted, Daniel Kane has already made significant contributions to mathematics beyond simply winning math contests. My vote would definitely be to keep this article.--Dash77 (talk) 00:37, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

While removing the articles about the winners of these various contest exams may in general be reasonable, one should also pay attention to the details: this Daniel Kane in particular has published an unusual number of papers in respectable journals as an undergraduate, and the award for undergraduate research is perhaps more notable than IMO, Putnam, etc.

That being said, the level of detail of the article, especially in the "Childhood" section is likely unwarranted.

-140.247.10.1 (talk) 11:36, 8 December 2007 (UTC)