Talk:Daniel Filipacchi
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[edit] Help needed to stop wrong information that is being repeatedly posted on this page
I need help, here. I've put a lot of effort into developing this bio page in a way that is interesting and accurate. But since yesterday, someone keeps adding words to the introductory paragraph that are not appropriate and are inaccurate. I keep reverting the changes, but he/she keeps redoing them, each time from a different computer (different IP address). He has now started threatening me, saying things like "Last warning to Fender." I don't know what he means by that. He does not even have an identity nor a track record of having contributed usefully to Wikipedia. He doesn't even have a consistent IP address. If you look back in the history of changes I've made since yesterday (4 Jan 08), you'll see that I tried changing the paragraph in many different ways, hoping I would find one way that would satisfy him/her. But he always changes it back to his inaccurate version. I'd really appreciate some help. I cannot spend all my time watching this page and reverting his inappropriate changes, so unless others help me out, the page will probably contain his change which is inaccurate and inappropriate.
I do not think his change is appropriate or necessary for a personal biography. It also seems to have a POV problem, seems to be pushing a certain agenda. There's a complex corporate history that is not relevant for this page and to explain it accurately would require going into far too much detail for a biographical page like this (it doesn't belong here, and is covered on the pages devoted to the relevant companies). The simplest way to put it is this: according to the Matra page on Wikipedia, the company Matra that is referenced did not exist for the entire period covered by the introductory overview of this biography. ( Gabrielle Fender (talk) 01:05, 6 January 2008 (UTC) )
- I've re-added the cleanup and refimprove tags, those are not vandalism. I did not replace the dubious tag, as it was unclear what statement was dubious, nor did I replace the "largest magazine publishing company..." line, as it was unsourced. --Kbdank71 16:38, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
--fix the details with JL Lagardere with references and links ( this is not vandalism but article construction)--83.76.234.167 (talk) 23:06, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
- removed bogus links to JL Lagardere articles that are not relevant here. (QualityControl64 (talk) 23:47, 7 January 2008 (UTC))
- seemes that JL Lagardere is a very relevent part in Filipacchi's life......--Wikioedit (talk) 07:30, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
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Please discuss changes here instead of edit warring. --Kbdank71 17:53, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Wikipedia
why not ad this reference to the filipacchi article seems true knowledge with references: Daniel Filipacchi (born 1928, in Paris, France) is the Chairman Emeritus of Hachette Filipacchi Medias which he built into the largest magazine publishing company in the world under the leadership of Jean-Luc Lagardère, then head at Matra.[1]. http://www.ketupa.net/hachette.htm or http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2001_April_26/ai_73666592 --Wikioedit (talk) 12:14, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- I don't see in those two links any mention of Daniel Filipacchi. How are they references for the statement you want to add? --Kbdank71 15:54, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
-- If you read correctly here on line two its sais http://www.ketupa.net/hachette.htm This profile considers Hachette-Filipacchi (the media arm of the Lagardère industrial conglomerate) please change now you have the facts!--Wikioedit (talk) 15:52, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- I know what I read. Nowhere does it say that "which he built into the largest magazine publishing company in the world under the leadership of Jean-Luc Lagardère". Find me a reference that has something to do with what you want to add, and I'll add it. --Kbdank71 16:46, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
-- its easy to understand: hachette filipacchi is a subsidiary of Lagardere gROUP FOUNDED BY LAGARDER. Filipacchi was the chairman and Lagardere the founder and head and owner of the group. you find all this in the links i provided. On top of this Hachette is inded the largest publishing group in the world. PLEASE UPDATE NOW TO CORRECT VALUES... Daniel Filipacchi (born 1928, in Paris, France) is the Chairman Emeritus of Hachette Filipacchi Medias which he built into the largest magazine publishing company in the world under the leadership of Jean-Luc Lagardère, then head at Matra.[2]....--Wikioedit (talk) 14:29, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
-- Clearly, from what you just said, the Hachette Filipacchi company was not entirely built while Jean-Luc Lagardere was head of Matra. The corporate history is more complicated and does not need to be included or explained on the opening line of this particular page. QualityControl64 (talk) 15:21, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
-- iNTERESTING::::Everything is more complicated but from the references and facts this is a good point. seems that QualityControl and FENDER are similar persons or working together and both have a problem at mentionning Matra and Lagardere in the Filipacchi page, while inded filipacchi is the communication arm of the Lagardere Matra EADS Group. WE WANT WIKIPEDIA TO BE A PLACE OF GLOBAL RESOURCES AND NOT A UNILATERAL PLACE WHERE ONE CAN EDIT HIS FAVORITE BIO AND FOR PERSONAL INTEREST , PLEASE UPDATE :Daniel Filipacchi (born 1928, in Paris, France) is the Chairman Emeritus of Hachette Filipacchi Medias which he built into the largest magazine publishing company in the world under the leadership of Jean-Luc Lagardère, then head at Matraand EADS.[3]....--Wikioedit (talk) 14:29, 16 January 2008 (UTC)--Wikioedit (talk) 13:46, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
-- Wikioedit -- As you have previously explained in your own words, what you are posting is factually inaccurate. Plus, Jean-Luc Lagardere is already mentioned on this page. This is a biography page, not a corporate history. QualityControl64 (talk) 14:28, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
-- we dont agree and we told you the reason! --Wikioedit (talk) 14:32, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
--Ok good, god save the king ------Wikioedit (talk) 16:27, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
