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Good article Danbury, Connecticut was a nominee for Geography and places good article, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.


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Danbury, Connecticut was a good article nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these are addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Reviewed version: July 3, 2007
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    Here are some suggestions from Horologium which can help for the Good Article nomination.

    • Although it is not a requirement, the guidelines at WikiProject Cities suggest that only one population figure should be cited in the opening. (Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities#Article structure example for a U.S. City). You have three, plus a two different figures for illegal immigrants. Pick one figure, please. You might want to use the most recent estimate in the lede, and use the 2000 census figure in the demographics section, since all that data is based off of the census.
    • There are no references at all in the "History" section. There are a lot of statements there that need some sort of reference.
    • The "Large and distinctive companies" section is roughly analogous to "Economy", and should be moved down after "Law and government". Additionally, ATMI does not have an article. Either a stub should be written up for the company, or it should be removed from the list. Having it listed without a wikilink does not imply any form of notability. Again there are no references in this section, only the external link to the ATMI website.
    • The "Geography" section needs to be expanded (and possibly referenced). Are there any notable geographic features in the area? Is there weather data on the city itself, or perhaps a neighboring city? It needs something more than a simple set of latitude and longitude measurements.
    • The "Historical Population" table needs a little formatting, as it runs into some of the text in the main body of the article. It might be a good idea to prune it back considerably (maybe every 30-50 years until 1970, then every ten years from that point on).
    • The "Colleges and Universities" section needs to be expanded, A single sentence is not sufficient. You could change it to "Education" and include data about local public schools, or educational attainment of the population, or anything else that might apply. Make sure to add references as appropriate.
    • Prune back the "Sites of Interest". Most of the listed sites have no wikilinks or external references.
    • "Sports" and "Transportation" both need references.
    • "Israel Ward Andrew" is a redlink. Consider creating a stub or deleting him from the list.
    • Reference #2 is to a blog; try to find a reliable source, or consider removing the link and the information that the link supports.
    • Another thing I just noticed--there are two pictures in the history section that relate to some type of disaster (a flood?) that happened in 1869, yet there is no mention of it in the history. If it's important enough to dedicate two pictures, it is important enough to mention in the narrative, one would think.

    I can't say I'm entirely pleased with the Historical population section. It's long, and it's pretty useless information. I can't even seem to find the same information on any other city's page. I've reverted it back to the more appropriate bullet-list version, though (see How to use tables) - Plutor 15:17, 12 May 2004 (UTC)

    If I was less tired, I would probably be adding something to this page. 137.99.184.148 10:49, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

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    [edit] Inaccurate Link

    The link for the co-founder of Subway restaurants incorrectly sends the user to information on musician Peter Buck. The actual co-founder of Subway is Dr. Peter Buck, and information can be found on the Subway website at http://www.subway.com/subwayroot/AboutSubway/history/subwayHistory.aspx

    71.252.209.162 03:09, 6 July 2006 (UTC)M. Winter

    Fixed. -- Plutor 11:36, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

    I go to wooster school. Go Genrals. you suck melrose

    [edit] General Wooster's death

    General Wooster did not die "defending the city of Danbury". His leadership, in the capacity as Major General of the Connecticut milita, was formed as an armed response to the general invasion of Fairfield County, CT and the advance of the British troops on the town of Ridgefield, Connecticut. He was mortally wounded in this subsequent engagement to the actual burning of the Danbury stores (the British objective). After his mortal wounding near Ridgefield, CT, he was brought to the Dibble house in Danbury, CT. It was here that he died 5 days later and was buried in the local hospital cemetery. Years later, his body was reinterred in Danbury's Wooster Cemetery where he resides today. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wwporter (talk • contribs) 13:07, 4 February 2007 (UTC).

    [edit] Illegal Aliens

    The census counts illegal aliens badly, but does count them. The best estimates are from politicians? Jd2718 15:28, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] A few GA concerns

    There are a few concerns I have over the article and its nomination for Good Article status.

    • Although it is not a requirement, the guidelines at WikiProject Cities suggest that only one population figure should be cited in the opening. (Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities#Article structure example for a U.S. City). You have three, plus a two different figures for illegal immigrants. Pick one figure, please. You might want to use the most recent estimate in the lede, and use the 2000 census figure in the demographics section, since all that data is based off of the census.
    • There are no references at all in the "History" section. There are a lot of statements there that need some sort of reference.
    • The "Large and distinctive companies" section is roughly analogous to "Economy", and should be moved down after "Law and government". Additionally, ATMI does not have an article. Either a stub should be written up for the company, or it should be removed from the list. Having it listed without a wikilink does not imply any form of notability. Again there are no references in this section, only the external link to the ATMI website.
    • The "Geography" section needs to be expanded (and possibly referenced). Are there any notable geographic features in the area? Is there weather data on the city itself, or perhaps a neighboring city? It needs something more than a simple set of latitude and longitude measurements.
    • The "Historical Population" table needs a little formatting, as it runs into some of the text in the main body of the article. It might be a good idea to prune it back considerably (maybe every 30-50 years until 1970, then every ten years from that point on).
    • The "Colleges and Universities" section needs to be expanded, A single sentence is not sufficient. You could change it to "Education" and include data about local public schools, or educational attainment of the population, or anything else that might apply. Make sure to add references as appropriate.
    • Prune back the "Sites of Interest". Most of the listed sites have no wikilinks or external references.
    • "Sports" and "Transportation" both need references.
    • "Israel Ward Andrew" is a redlink. Consider creating a stub or deleting him from the list.
    • Reference #2 is to a blog; try to find a reliable source, or consider removing the link and the information that the link supports.

    Horologium t-c 00:41, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

    Another thing I just noticed--there are two pictures in the history section that relate to some type of disaster (a flood?) that happened in 1869, yet there is no mention of it in the history. If it's important enough to warrant two pictures, it is important enough to mention in the narrative, one would think. Horologium t-c 20:22, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
    (Yes, even more) The lede needs to be reworked a bit, and some of the information should be elsewhere in the article. From the Wikipedia style guidelines for introduction sections: Significant information should not appear in the lead if it is not covered in the remainder of the article, although specific facts, such as birthdates, titles, or scientific designations will often appear in the lead only. The same page also recommends a lede of two or three paragaphs for an article of this size (it is currently 25.2kb). The last two paragraphs in the lede are not referenced elsewhere in the article, and the first two could be combined into a single paragraph, since short, disjointed paragraphs are discouraged. The history section also has several one or two sentence paragraphs that should be consolidated or expanded. Horologium t-c 16:52, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] GA failure

    I am going to go ahead and fail the GA nomination for now. Several of the issues I raised have been corrected, but there are still a number of issues that need to be addressed. Once they are fixed, the article should be renominated. Horologium t-c 16:46, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Image of Danbury and city seal

    Does anyone own a "bird's eye view" image of Danbury, sort of like a picture of the skyline? Secondly, does anyone own a city seal that is in color and not in black-and-white? Maybe they can be found or asked for on the official city site, those images would really help the article. Thank you, AJSDA115 14:53, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Carole King

    I could not find any important evidence that shows a relation between Carole King and Danbury. She was born in NY. NyyDave 15:12, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] GA fail

    I have failed this article for much the same reasons as it failed its previous GA nomination; many of the points in that review are still to be addressed. The History section, for instance, still has no references. Worse, there are at least two {{fact}} tags.

    Overall I don't think that the number of references is adequate for an article of thie size, and there are too many lists that ought to be converted to prose. The amount of work still required to get this article up to GA standard is considerable I think, so I decided to fail it rather than put it on hold. Please feel free to renominate it when the necessary work has been done; there is no minimum time between GA reviews.

    Good luck with developing the article. --Malleus Fatuarum 22:07, 5 October 2007 (UTC)