Talk:Dana Beal
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This article was nominated for deletion on 6 May 2006. The result of the discussion was keep. |
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[edit] Comments
To see Dana Beal in a tie is earth-shattering, and i used to live in the same house as him for 8 years. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.7.70.29 (talk • contribs) 18:36, 30 July 2005
Something gives me the feeling that Dana Beal wrote this biography himself. What kind of douchbag posts his autobiography on wikipedia? Oh, wait, Jeremy Hammond. Blacklisted news was a great fucking book though, it was so cool to see that picture of Logan Square Park filled with yippies. Now it's full of yuppie scumbags. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wmjaypee (talk • contribs) 20:44, 2 March 2006
If Beal wrote it, it would be a lot better than this rambling " 'member when? "; he might be self-important, but he's much more lucid than this.
As someone who knows a bit about the topic, I suggest that the current body of the entry be retained, but clearly marked as an anecdotal snippet from a contemporary. I'll expand the first paragraph with what I know, in a manner more appropriate to an Wikipedia entry. This other content DOES shed some light on Beal in an interesting way, I just don't think it should be above the fold. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FlyingCoyote (talk • contribs) 01:47, 21 March 2006
Allowing for anecdotal material as was placed in this article (probably by AJ or Aron) is one of the things that makes Wikipedia such a good research source. It should be obvious to most readers what is anecdotal. The stuff about Michigan State really captures the spirit of campus cultural protest in the mid-1960s. I cleaned up some of the language that was inappropriate anywhere except a chat room, but left the comment about the Michigan psychiatrist since it seemed to be a case of "poetic license." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.188.116.7 (talk • contribs) 03:04, 22 March 2006
This article needs serious cleanup... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.149.68.60 (talk • contribs) 19:13, 17 July 2006
[edit] http://user.aol.com/station019/march.htm
ReyBrujo, please do not remove this link from the article again as you did on October 22, 2006. Removing it was vandalism in my opinion because it is a reference citation, and was not listed in the external links section. You called it an external link in your comment for removing it.
"Supporting references or footnotes need not be kept to a minimum, but they should be separated from other external links."
It is a supporting reference for this statement in the article: "NYC has had marijuana rallies since 1967." It took me a long time for me to find the 2 supporting references for that statement. It is common knowledge among cannabis advocates, but it is not easy to find citations on the web for it. Both citations are needed since they fill in the picture more clearly. I am putting them in the reference format <ref> </ref>, and creating a reference section, so that the citation nature is further amplified. I also put the other reference links in the article in that format. And I took some of the external links and used them to reference some of the article too. So now there are fewer links remaining in the external links section. There were very few before. --Timeshifter 08:52, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] CannabisNews.com archives link for Dana Beal
ReyBrujo, please do not remove the link from the article again as you did on October 22, 2006. It is a lot easier to link to this specialized archive with a single search link, than it is to link to many of the articles. And it keeps the number of external links down. That is the purpose of most of the rules on the external links guideline pages:
The guideline about using search engine results says "normally" don't use them, not "always" don't use them. I rewrote the description of the link so that its relevance is clearer. CannabisNews is in the link title now, so that the specialized relevance of the link is clearer. --Timeshifter 08:15, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Cleanup
I have removed only the most obvious bullshit, and left a lot of stuff that seems somewhat plausible. I hope other editors will either provide documentation for soeme of the remaining stuff, or else remove it if they believe it to be false. Almost nothing is properly cited. --Leatherstocking 01:34, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Protests against Joni Mitchell?
From the article: From Number Nine Beal organized demonstrations against the Unification Church, against Roy M. Cohn and John Mitchell and numerous anti-war rallies. Can someone provide clarification, or a source? —Preceding unsigned comment added by RomaC (talk • contribs) 10:17, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Money Laundering charges
He was arrested and charged with money laundering, as the sources make clear. People can't be incarcerated in this country for "facing possible charges". John celona (talk) 01:09, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- Actually until the arraignment one has not actually faced the charges. In this case, the arraignment is scheduled for June 12. The NY Times Source quotes the sheriff as saying that he will "face" charges. --Jkp212 (talk) 02:38, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] This article now reads like a newspaper
Does half the article really need to have such lengthy quotes from recent articles, as if wikipedia is a newspaper, which it's not...I've seen some people argue in other articles that "charges" shouldn't even be mentioned in an encylopedic article, only convictions... i don't want to take out another editor's thoughtful additions, so i will kindly ask for him to use his discretion in cutting it down. --Jkp212 (talk) 06:10, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
