Talk:Dan Marino
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[edit] Most yards in a season
This is now incorrect. It is true that Marino has the most PASSING yards in a season, but in 2004 Daunte Culpepper passed and rushed for a combined 5,123 yards. I'm changing it to "most passing yards in a season".
[edit] Position in history
The final sentence in the first paragraph has taken many forms: the current one ("greatest pure passer;, my edit ("one of the greatest passers"), and the version just before that ("the greatest passer"). I think we should settle on the wording of this sentence once and for all, maybe even eliminating it.
And as I look further back in the history, perhaps the fairest first paragraph is the one revised at 00:44 on 9 August 2005.
Opinions on how this part of the article should read?
72.10.241.61 05:06, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
I don't think it's a stretch at all to say he's frequently hailed as the best pure passer ever to play. Maybe a better way of stating it would be: "arguably the best pure passer in pro football history". I also think that 'pure' emphasizes his throwing ability perfectly; it has been said many times that coaches throughout his career never tried to tamper with his natural mechanics. 152.163.101.8
- Yeah, I was looking for a word to serve the purpose of "arguably;" I am uncomfortable with anything that seems to indicate a lack of debate.--72.10.241.61 01:30, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
maybe instead of "...and is widely recognized as one of the greatest quarterbacks in football history." we could go with something irrefutable:"He has held almost every meaningful NFL passing record and is the most prolific passer in NFL history." the stats bear this notion; maybe "prolific" is the bad word here. -Nod 23:56, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Words like "arguably" and "generally considered" should not be used at all. These are weasal words that ultimately make a claim that cannot be supported by fact. Opinions that can be argued should not be in an encyclopedia entry at all. Simply state the facts- something to the effect of: "Dan Marino set many passing records during his career." Now that is a statement that cannot be argued with. It is up to the reader to decide whether or not that makes Marino one of the greatest. RobS
[edit] NO, he's NOT
Dan Marino is not widely considered the greatest quarterback in history. Joe Montana and Johnny Unitas receive at least as much recognition as the greatest quarterback in history.
Generally Marino's name comes first, there's just always an asterisk. Many people call him "statistically" the greatest QB of all time. --Mankind716 03:04, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Marino is in fact considered one of the best.
[edit] Records broken
Between Brett Favre and Peyton Manning, a lot of these records are gone now... should they be left in with a note on when/who broke them? Don't think it would be right to outright remove them even if I'm not a big Marino fan... :)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 132.42.128.28 (talk • contribs) .
I think I might have solved that problem with a slight change to the header. PJM 12:49, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
I believe that we should at least add who broke them when they are broken. Brett Favre has already broken at least 4 records on here. I'm not saying that Marino's records are insignificant, but we should give credit where credit is due. 0cycoivan 11/01/06
sorry don't know where else to go but the first paragraph says he has a quick SEXUAL release & a powerful testis... some idiots trying to be funny
[edit] Top Five Reasons You Can't Blame
ESPN Classic's latest episode of their The Top 5 Reasons You Can't Blame... series concerned the reasons why Dan Marino shouldn't be blamed for never winning a Super Bowl. This is basically the reason why the expand tag has just been added. User:TMC1982
[edit] Removed POV passage
" being ungraciously pushed out of Miami by new coach Dave Wannstedt "
That was in the phrase regarding his retirement, and while it is largely believed by many Dolphin fans (including me), it has no basis in fact. I changed it to : Before the 2000 season, Marino decided to retire, after declining offers from Minnesota and his hometown of Pittsburgh. The part I deleted had been after the first comma. Nanaharas 04:57, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
I added his stated reason from his retirement press conference. Nanaharas 04:33, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
I get it people, many of you don't like MArino, but to claim he didn't have a reason to exist at that point of time...
[edit] ELs
I'm not sure what the point of the following ELs is, so i've moved them here. Thoughts?
- Dan Marino Tribute Fansite: www.DanMarinoTribute.com
- [1]Dan Marino's quick release
- [2]Marino and FirstPlus Mortgage
- The Dan Marino Foundation
They don't seem to "pass" WP:EL. Jmfangio 09:54, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
Well it looks like I have found an article to work on. It seems that the FirstPlus article is used as a ref and that's all it should be used in. Jmfangio 10:12, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] New Stats
I put all of Marino's stats in table format. I could not find in any of the sources Dan's passer rating or longest completion for his playoff stats, so if anyone knows where to find those stats, either put them in or let me know, thanks!
Gonzo fan2007 talk ♦ contribs 18:32, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
The table format is much better, but the marker for Marino's remaining NFL record is all but invisible since it is aqua on aqua. Moretz (talk) 22:27, 28 January 2008 (UTC)