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[edit] your addition of links to famousamericans.net

Is being discussed here. Please familiarize yourself with our Spam and External links policies. --Versageek 04:01, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Please stop copying and pasting directly from that website. You should at the very least proofread (I found several typos), and preferably rewrite for clarity - we don't still talk like we did in 1889. — BRIAN0918 • 2007-11-07 15:20Z

Also, you are still using one singular source. Am I wrong in suspecting you are involved in this site (as you seem so inclined to use only this site)? If you are, please review our conflict of interest guideline, and maybe the neutral point of view policy is of interest anyway. Thanks! --Dirk Beetstra T C 19:54, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
And, if you are copy-pasting information from the other site, maybe our copyright policy is also of interest. --Dirk Beetstra T C 19:55, 7 November 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Speedy deletion of Philip Amidas

A tag has been placed on Philip Amidas requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be a blatant copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words.

If the external website belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text — which means allowing other people to modify it — then you must include on the external site the statement "I, (name), am the author of this article, (article name), and I release its content under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 and later." You might want to look at Wikipedia's policies and guidelines for more details, or ask a question here.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the article (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Nazrila 04:42, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Greetings, I am a voluntary editor of Virtualology sites. I have spoken with Mr. Klos recently about utilizing his Appleton's content to add and improve biographies in Wikipedia since quite a bit of famousamericans.net text is in Wiki postings but do not cite Virtuaology as the source. Mr. Klos thought it was a good idea to add new information and where needed an entire biography for a missing historic figures in Wikipedia. My question simply is, If Mr. Klos agrees can these biographies be utlized to expand Wikipedia by adding missing biographies and thereby give your contributors a base to work from? Can this be done with a computer program rather then manually since there are approximately 25,000 biographies to review? Damslerset
I've posted this at Wikipedia_talk:Copyright_problems#Virtualology. Please follow-up there. Thanks. --Tikiwont 09:45, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thomas Andros

This is an automated message from CorenSearchBot. I have performed a web search with the contents of Thomas Andros, and it appears to include a substantial copy of http://www.famousamericans.net/thomasandros. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences.

This message was placed automatically, and it is possible that the bot is confused and found similarity where none actually exists. If that is the case, you can remove the tag from the article and it would be appreciated if you could drop a note on the maintainer's talk page. CorenSearchBot 03:50, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thomas Andros

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions to the Thomas Andros article, but for legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted.

You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words.

If the external website belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text — which means allowing other people to modify it — then you must include on the external site the statement "I, (name), am the author of this article, (article name), and I release its content under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 and later."

You might want to look at Wikipedia's policies and guidelines for more details, or ask a question here. You can also leave a message on my talk page.Handschuh-talk to me 16:07, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Clearing up the copyright issue

I've just tagged another of your page creations as a possible copyright violation. Let's cut to the chase - here is how to clear up the copyright issue - I quote:

* If you hold the copyright to this text and permit its use under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License: Explain this on this article's discussion page, then either display a notice to this effect at the site of original publication or send an e-mail from an address associated with the original publication to permissions-en at wikimedia dot org or a postal letter to the Wikimedia Foundation. These messages must explicitly permit use under the GFDL.

As far as I have been able to determine, this has not yet been done. Unless you do this, we will have no choice but to keep deleting your additions from FamousAmericans.net.—greenrd (talk) 15:21, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spam and Conflict of Interest warnings

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, one or more of the external links you added to the page Hancock County, Ohio do not comply with our guidelines for external links and have been removed. Wikipedia is not a collection of links; nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Since Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the article's talk page before reinserting it. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you.

If you have a close connection to some of the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred from the tone of the edit and the proximity of the editor to the subject, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:

  1. editing articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with,
  2. participating in deletion discussions about articles related to your organization or its competitors,
  3. linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam);
    and you must always:
  4. avoid breaching relevant policies and guidelines, especially neutral point of view, verifiability, and autobiography.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have conflict of interest, please see Wikipedia:Business' FAQ. For more details about what constitutes a conflict of interest, please see Wikipedia:Conflict of Interest. Thank you. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 01:44, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia, as you did to Independence Hall (United States). Wikipedia is not a collection of links, nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam policy for further explanations. Since Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. Thank you.

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did to Hancock, New Hampshire, you will be blocked from editing. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 01:51, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Fine, keep your errors in history, I give-up. God forbid Wiki readers readers are educated that Hancock was not only President of the Continental Congress but President of the United States under its 1st US Constitution. As for Independence Hall, do you know why the government of the United States abandoned it as the seat of government? Do you have a clue? I bet you don't. I dare not add that to your precious fluff page on the Hall. For you, however, in 1783 the military mutinied and surrounded Independence Hall holding Elias Boudinot (President of the United States) hostage along with the entire government of the United States. The President called out the Pennsylvania militia to free them but they backed the mutineers and refused to show. It was future President of the United States, Artur St. Clair, who came to the rescue and finally freed them in negotiations. They vacated Independence Hall and resumed the seat of government in Nassau Hall Princeton never to return again. Now how does one tell this story or the FACT that 10 Presidents of the United States existed before George Washington without citing a source? There are so many errors in Wiki on the founding period it is ridiculous. So I start with the small stuff like acknowledging John Hancock for holding two Presidencies and cite a source to wake people up who may actually browse their precious Hancock county or Independence Hall that he held the two offices. You call it vandalism. I call it righting history and giving a great man his due as a founder of a nation that borne your right to censor readers of a county named after him that hHancock was once President of the United States in Congress Assembled.

[edit] WikiProject Resource Exchange

Why not post a bit of information about your site to the WikiProject Resource Exchange, and allow other editors to use it as needed? The old book that is behind the content of famousamericans.net certainly contains useful information. However, continuing to add direct copies of information and links to many Wikipedia articles yourself may end up getting you blocked even though you mean well. --Versageek 02:02, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the tip, I added it to Free Online Sources - Biographies. I added a warning there about it, as it is known to contain erroneous material, even to the extent of including totally imaginary individuals. DGG (talk) 01:17, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: President of the U nited States in Congress Assembled

Please look at the guidelines and policies on reliable sources and external links before adding what appear to be spam links to promote a book. Self published books are not generally considered reliable sources. You might also want to read up on spam and single purpose accounts.

I also strongly question using a book on John Hancock (biography) as a source for the name of various Hancock Counties in the US (a history of the county would be a much better source).

If you would like, I would be glad to ask for a third opinion on your edits inserting the President Who? link. Just let me know (we both have to agree to go to Third Opinion). Thanks, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 22:13, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] outside opinion on use of Virtualology/Appletons

according to the site, the revised biographies are arranged separately, as explained "If you would like to edit this biography please submit a rewritten biography in text form . If acceptable, the new biography will be published above the 19th Century Appleton's Cyclopedia Biography citing the volunteer editor." from, e.g. [1] However, I see no firm indication that this is in fact the case, and would like to see some examples of this. Ones directly from Appletons are not copyvios. Ones modified from Appleton's are copyvios, because the Virtualology site is copyrighted. Unfortunately, the original ones are also known not to be reliable or accurate.( It is additionally plagiarism to use them with just the tag at the bottom, without indicating that the entire article was copied and what the exact source is.) I therefore doubt that any material from this site can ever be incorporated in Wikipedia. If unmodified, they are not reliable. If modified, they are not public domain.

I furthermore do not think the material is always being added carefully. there was already a good article on Benjamin Alvord (mathematician) (1813-1884), using Appleton as well as other more authoritative sources. You added an article for his son, Benjamin Alford Jr., unfortunately called Benjamin Alvord (general) --unfortunately because the father was also a general--and copied the information from the bio of his parent as a direct cut and paste from the Appleton web site. (I deleted it as a duplicate, but I can make a copy available--actually I hardly need to, because it is an exact literal character-by-character copy of the one on your own web site [2] without any attempt whatsoever to modify it into the appropriate style for wikipedia--not even inverting the name from its "ALVORD, Benjamin," to what we would call "Benjamin Alvord." Not writing appropriately with respect to style, is a minor matter and easily fixable--though a nuisance if you intend to do many contributions. But you did not check to see that you were copy-pasting about the right person!

I think this casts doubt on all contributions derived from this source, and I urge you not to add further material until this has been worked out according to consensus. I apologize if this has sounded a little sharp, but I want to make certain that this gets clarified before things get more complicated. -- This has already been discussed at Wikipedia_talk:Copyright_problems#Virtualology and might best be continued there. I have also mentioned it at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography-- DGG (talk) 01:00, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Administrators' noticeboard discussion

Please feel free to join in this discussion of Virtualology and Wikipedia.
--A. B. (talk) 18:37, 8 December 2007 (UTC)