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[edit] Away from the flock

This article is inaccurate or misleading. At one point it credits "Away from the Flock" as being created in 1994 yet it was also allegedly vandalized or destroyed in 1993.

  • According to the August 1994 Daily Telegraph article which is reprinted in Hirst's book, the artist Mark Bridger vandalized "Away From The Flock" in May 1994. --Wedneswolf 03:53, 2005 May 26 (UTC)

[edit] Anagram and joke

  • Does the Anagram in the Trivia section belong here?

I agree, and have deleted it. Thanks for making the comment. I put it in, because I was covering all aspects, but I felt afterwards it let the article down. I've removed the "joke" too, but it's below if anyone wants it.

Tyrenius 21:30, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

  • This joke is derived from Hirst's use of employees to make his work:
Q: How many YBAs does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: None. They get their assistants to do it because they've got a drinking appointment in Soho with Keith Allen.(Hirst superstar, Channel 4 website)

I have added a trivia section, with two pieces of information on his helicopters. I don't have any sources that I can link to, but I am a member of Cotswold Gliding Club and I can confirm that he was there today, as he is regularly The chicken lady 23:26, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Profanity

Direct quotes from Hirst including the words "fucking" and "fuck" had letters replaced by asterisks. I reverted this as it is against Wiki guidelines, as on Wikipedia:Profanity:

A profanity should either appear in its full form or not at all; obscene words should never be bowdlerized by replacing letters in the word with dashes, asterisks, or other symbols. This guideline is especially important when quoting relevant material.

Tyrenius 00:25, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright

I have taken the following out of the article. The ref given is a spoof site, but the incident did happen and there is at least one national newspaper mention, which should be used. Also the wording of "took legal proceedings" needs to be confirmed for its precise accuracy. Tyrenius 12:05, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

In 2004 lawyers acting on the behalf of Mr Hirst took legal proceedings against Simon Phillips for a website that lampooned the artist. The Damien-Hirst.co.uk files

[edit] Spot Paintings

Are the spots really coloured at random, or is that just a loose way of saying "with no obvious pattern"? William Avery 22:33, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Apparently colouration is random using household paint charts, so it operates within pre-defined parameters. Tyrenius 01:29, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Thank you. Looking at the article on randomness it seems to comply with the "non-scientific" definition. William Avery 08:04, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Parodies, criticisms of the artist

I was searching for a picture of Some Comfort Gained when I stumbled across this image: [1] It is a photograph of a miniature parody of Physical Impossibility (the shark tank) made out of LEGOS! It actually looks pretty neat. I was wondering if anyone would like to put a link to it somewhere on the page. There are also these: [2] [3]. --H3xx 14:29, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

In external links section there is already a link to the Little Artists lego shark tank.[4] Tyrenius 23:16, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Diamond skull

I think that this article needs to include a section on the diamond encrusted skull, as it is an important work of his and if sold for the asking price of £50 million ($99 million) it would be the most expensive piece of artwork sold by a living artist. It's called "For the love of god" if anyone wants to search for it and find out more about it.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.212.131.45 (talk • contribs).

There is a whole article For the Love of God (artwork). Tyrenius 17:02, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

that article was created after i posted that comment, but thank you for pointing that out.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.212.131.45 (talk • contribs).

Maybe you were the inspiration! If you put 4 tildes ~ after your post it will sign it automatically. Tyrenius 07:57, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Does not do his own work

"Although Hirst participated physically in the making of early works, he has always needed assistants (Carl Freedman helped with the first vitrines), and now the volume of work produced necessitates a "factory" setup, akin to Andy Warhol's or a Renaissance studio. This has led to questions about authenticity, as was highlighted in 1997, when a spin painting that Hirst said was a "forgery" appeared at sale, although he had previously said that he often had nothing to do with the creation of these pieces." I would not call anyone who does not make the work themselves an artist. More of a businessperson really. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.0.111.122 (talk • contribs).

Personal speculation and interpretation can't be included. You will need to provide a source. Tyrenius 07:59, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
This is a matter of definition rather than "speculation" On another topic, I remember seeing "spin paintings" being done in a department store when I was a child. Then they were a gimmick, now they are Art.80.0.124.113
Wikipedia policy means we can only use material which can be verified with reliable sources. Otherwise it is forbidden as original research. Find a source and it can be included. Tyrenius 12:51, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bizarre Typos?

"Just before Christmas 2002, Strummer died of a heat stroke. This had a profound effect on his thirst, who said, "It was the first time I felt mortal." Is that some kind of oblique joke? Also, there's one reference to a wife named "Matt," and one named "Maia." Are these the same person? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.49.251.170 (talk) 06:30, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

This was vandalism and has been reverted (removed).[5] You can do this yourself, if you spot it, by clicking the edit button at the top of the article, or the edit link at the start of each section. Thanks for drawing attention to it. If you click the history tab at the top of the article, you can see all the edits ever made. Tyrenius 12:53, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dead Link

The link below is dead ^ a b "Damien Hirst skull sells for 100 million dollars", yahoo.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.243.253.221 (talk) 23:29, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Horse in The Cell?

was the horse in The Cell (film with Jennifer lopez et al) by hirst as well? --77.183.238.181 (talk) 00:45, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Assistants

Removed from article till referenced, assistants: Hugh Allen, Andrew Chadwick, Lauren Child, Alex Crocker, Colin Glenn, James Irwin, Oliver Marsden, Holly Mitchell, Tom Ormond, Laurence Owen, James Porter, Ben Randall, Lawrence Hendra, Samuel Savage, Jackson Sprague, Kevin Storrar, Tim Summers, George Taylor and Sarah Woodburn. Ty 00:21, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Good call. Even if referenced its a list that is peripheral, and best kept out. Ceoil (talk) 00:28, 10 June 2008 (UTC)