Talk:Damiano Defence

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[edit] Question

this artical shows that 4. Qh5 is fatal if black responds with 4. ... Ke7. but what if black responds (as it can be assumed he would) with 4. ... g6? i think black will lose his queen in this case, but it will not lead to mate. --Whiteknight 15:20, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

4...g6 just loses the rook to 5.Qxe5 followed by 6.Qxh8. Black doesn't get mated, true, but the article doesn't claim mate is inevitable. --Camembert 18:20, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Stub?

Although this article is currently tagged as a stub, I don't think much expansion is possible. There just isn't that much to say about the Damiano. I'm leaving the stub notice for now, but if anyone else agrees that substantial expansion is unlikely, I would support removing the tag. Quale 06:42, 5 October 2005 (UTC) --- Paradoxically, f6? actually strengthens the kingside and pawn chain, but its problem is that it exposes the king.

[edit] A mistake

"10.Qa5!, when Black's best is 10...Nc6 11.Bxb7 Rb8, when White can play 12.Qxa7, with five extra pawns, or continue developing his pieces, remaining four pawns up -- in either case with a clearly winning position."

I don't think it is 10...Nc6 11.Bxb7 Rb8. It is more likely to be 10...Nc6 11.Bxc6 Rb8.

And another thing, if Black plays g6 as a defense against the White Queen (and lose his rook), Black can actually lock the queen and castle queen-side, eventually capturing White's queen. The stub does not mention it.

Of course it is longer than a stub, but this is excellent, let us not shorten it.

Yosef Cohen. Israel. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.132.169.142 (talk) 19:00, 19 March 2007 (UTC).

I assume you are thinking of 5...Qe7 6. Qxh8 Nf6 (anything else by Black and the Queen easily escapes). The queen then has no moves, but Black cannot easily attack her, and White should always be able to break the queen free by attacking or exchanging the pieces that are holding her. For example, 7. d3 ~ 8. Bh6 ~ 9. Bxf8 Qxf8 10. Qxf8+ Kxf8 91.105.62.18 23:20, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sample Chess Game

What happened to this article? It had a good Damiano Defense example. If it can't be on wikipedia it should be somewhere.70.42.116.9 19:20, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

It was transwikified to Wikibooks. --ZeroOne (talk | @) 22:05, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Relevance of Sam Sloan

Why is it relevant that Sam Sloan has played it? He's hardly a high class player. StaticElectric 15:45, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

  • I think you're right about this. It probably gives undue weight to Sloan. I suspect that the information is verifiable, but I'm not sure I think it's encyclopedic. Quale 16:00, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Importance Scale

Why has this page been given a mid-important on the importance scale? In my view this page should be low, it's less important then others on low-importance, i.e http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mieses_Opening and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sokolsky_Opening ChessCreator (talk) 14:59, 15 January 2008 (UTC)