Talk:Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport

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"Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport (IATA: DFW, ICAO: KDFW) is the third busiest airport in the world in terms of operations."

What do you mean "in terms of operations?". Is it plane movements or passenger numbers?


The TrAAin has been out of operation for about a year now.


No, the TrAAin is still in operation (as of February 2005). The TrAAin is operated by American Airlines and just runs between Terminals A and C. You are thinking of the slow moving DFW Train which used to run to all of the terminals. That has been out of service for over a year and will be replaced by the new People Mover system this Spring. Currently the airport is using shuttle buses to transfer people between all of the terminals until the new people mover system is operational. Jfitts 00:09, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Shuttle Landing

I have deleted the claim that this airport was the first commercial airport to host a shuttle landing in 1989, since all landings of the shuttle in that year were at Edwards Air Force Base (check the Shuttle Mission Archive). This could refer to a landing of the shuttle aboard its 747 carrier aircraft, in which case the claim could be put back into the article. Although this wouldn't be a "shuttle landing" in the strictest sense, and the claim would have to be reworded. Willy Logan 01:10, August 7, 2005 (UTC)

This always confused me by what was meant since the shuttle clearly never landed here at the end of it's mission. That would have been easily sourced if it had. I thought maybe they meant it had landed there carried on the NASA 747 Shuttle Carrier Aircraft for an open house. If this was the case DFW would be far from unique. Many airports such as Paris Le Bourget have had that honor. However I think I finally found, quite by accident, what the author really meant. In 1989 following the STS-30 mission Atlantis landed at Edwards AFB. Normally the NASA 747 SCA ferries it back to Florida by refueling at two air force bases enroute depending on weather. The shuttle tiles lose their water proof coating during re entry and it is imperitive the NASA 747 SCA avoid any bad weather that may expose the shuttle to rain. It appears on this ferry flight back they had to land at DFW to avoid rain at their intended destination. This would be the first time (and only time I've heard of) that following the end of a mission the shuttle has stopped at a commercial airport enroute back to Florida. www.airliners.net/open.file/014096/L shows the NASA 747 SCA with Atlantis at DFW following this mission. User:skywayman 00:46, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wright Amendment

I'm removing the recent addition about the Wright Amendment controversy. It completely violates the NPOV guideline. CF 00:58, August 15, 2005 (UTC)

should the link to Keep DFW Strong be removed? it probably shouldn't be there unless the corresponding anti-Wright Amendment website Wright Amendment Repeal Page is listed.--68.231.52.224 00:27, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Airline tags

What's the point of all those airline logos? feydey 23:21, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Non-stop Destinations

The current article is too long because of the destinations list. I think that there should be made a separate article for it to clean up the lengthyness of the airport article.

[edit] London Heathrow (LHR)

Recently people keep adding London/Heathrow to airlines such as United Airlines. DFW cannot fly direct to LHR but to London/Gatwick (LGW). This is similar to airports such as Atlanta (ATL) that only flies to LGW.

[edit] Seventh Runway?

"The seventh runway opened in 1996, and is said to have decreased air congestion throughout the United States by approximately 18 to 22 percent."

Not a chance. Without a citation, this has to go--it stands to reason that AA only has a maximum of about a 22 percent share of all domestic traffic and only about 30-40% of that goes thru DFW. "is said" -- by whom?

[edit] / to -

If you are going to change all /'s to -'s please apply it to all of them instead of only a few. There is always CTRL+F if you didn't know.

The policy decided on by the Wikiproject was to use dashes. If I missed a destination or two, then go ahead and fix them, rather than reverting the entire edit. Dbinder 15:09, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Also, slashes should be used when listing multi-city airports, but dashes when clarifying which airport in a city.. For example, Minneapolis/St. Paul, but Chicago-O'Hare. Dbinder 15:12, 28 January 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Diagram

Is there anyway we can get a terminal diagram up like the one there is on the George Bush Intercontinental Airport page ? 19:53, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] question about being largest airline

when reading the wikipedia article American Airlines, it states that AA is the second largest airline group in the world, behind Air France-KLM. Yet on the DFW Airport article, it states that AA is the world's largest?

65.69.188.137 14:38, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Combined, AF-KL is the largest, but the two still operate as separate airlines. The largest single carrier is AA. Dbinder (talk) 15:33, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

I thought Delta was the largest. Basketball110 (talk) 01:26, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Champion Air

If you go to the home page, they recently put Champion on the list. If you agree, put the airline on the list. Thanks

                             Oneriver505 23:28, 3 January 2007 (UTC) oneriver505
    • Just three days ago, I landed at DFW from SJU and I saw two Champion Air 727's and three Aeromexico 737 Boeings from my Boeing 757. I wonder what's the current status of those carriers at DFW? Antonio Demon of Flight Martin", 17:49, May 31, 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Skylink Topspeed

Sources on the topspeed of the Skylink seem to be in conflict with one another. Please see the Skylink discussion page for more information. RedPoptarts 12:41, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Size of Manhatten?

On one of the shuttles it says the airport is the size of manhatten I have a bet running with my sister... Is it Gavinthesavage 19:42, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Former Routes

What happened to the section on former destinations from DFW? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.249.65.188 (talk) 19:02, 25 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Dfw brand.gif

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BetacommandBot 02:27, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Don't bother taking off LGW, LHR you're clear for take off.

A few months ago, I came on to this page, and found that AA was going to cancel the Gatwick route, and put in a Heathrow route. A few weeks later, Gatwick was back, but no Heathrow. Then it switched again. Then it happened that both are there. That's now. Could someone clarify? Basketball110 17:19, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

  • Not to worry. AA has stated they would fly to both Heathrow and Gatwick when the LHR service starts. 69.249.65.12 (talk) 21:17, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Airtrans

The article says, "Later, the Airtrans at DFW was split into three separate systems, the regular Airport Train, an employee train, and the American Airlines TrAAin." As far as I can remember the regular Airtrans for passengers and the employee train always existed. They used the same track, but the employee train faced the other side, and its stations were more spartan (no glass doors, bare concrete, and largely obscured from view). I also remember "flatcars," I don't know if these were used for cargo or what. "Airtrans" also refers to a bus service, using the same logo, paint scheme etc. that ran between the terminals, parking ,car rental etc. There was also an intercity bus service (e.g. from the airport to downtown Dallas) called "Surtrans" that used a font and logo similar to that of Airtrans. Unfortunately I don't have sources for any of this other than personal recollection. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 19:02, 6 June 2008 (UTC)