Talk:Dahomey Amazons

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Dahomey Amazons was a good article, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these are addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. Delisted version: May 24, 2006

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I dared change Fon belief from animism to Vodun as this is more accurate. Bechamp

Contents 1 Recent revert 2 Disputed passage 3 Delisted from GA 4 clarification needed 5 Name

[edit] Recent revert

I hit the button too fast; I intended to explain that I removed recently added unsourced information. — mark ✎ 14:48, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

The info added had some truth to it if my memory serves me right. But I don't have a source to hand - Xed 21:23, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

I hate it to be reckless. Here's what I removed (it needs to be sourced anyway):

When the French men took the Dahomey amazons to bed, the unarmed amazons tore out their throats with their teeth. The French men were dead in the morning.

Added by 66.52.55.174 (talk · contribs), whom I have notified of the issue. — mark ✎ 21:50, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Disputed passage

Hello, I believe that the following passage must be removed from the article since there is no substantial evidence suggesting that "Much of the conflict in that place and period was conducted for the purpose of obtaining slaves from other tribes in order to sell to American and European slave traders." On the contrary, it seems that it was mostly conducted to obtain captives who would be sacrificed at the Great Customs and Annual Customs and "to make Dahomey always larger" (Dahomey Kings devise) as pointed out by the author of the following francophone article: http://www.angelfire.com/az/univers/Dahomey.html Sandro Capochichi

I just reverted myself; I first reverted another instance of you removing this disputed passage, but then I thought I'd rather let it go and try discussing here. I think both versions have some truth to it. Of course the Europeans were not the only destabilizing factor in the region. Either way, whatever we are going to write about this, it will have to be sourced, and that is why I support leaving the statement out for now. — mark ✎ 08:46, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Delisted from GA

I delisted this article from GA becuase it does not cite any of it's sources. If the further reading section is references, the article still needs to have some inline citations. Chuck^(척뉴넘) 06:24, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] clarification needed

Toward the end of the article, under "customs," a sentence reads, "Captives were often decapitated." Does this mean that the Amazons, when captured, were decapitated, or that the Amazons decapitated their prisoners? More likely the latter, but clarification would be nice.

The victims the amazons captured were decapitated. Sometimes, instead of decapitation, the amazons removed the genitals of their victims. Both instances of mutilation were done as war trophies (the way ancient egyptians removed genitals of their enemies to keep count of inflicted casualties).Scott Free (talk) 14:32, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Name

We know that they were called Amazons by Westerners, but what was the group's original name? --- Noclevername (talk) 14:22, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Ahosi ("our mothers")

Scott Free (talk) 18:26, 1 March 2008 (UTC)