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[edit] Population

The article says 4 largest and bigger then Incheon but article about Icheon says that it has 2,466,338 and Daegu has 2,500,000 which means Daegu must be bigger and therefor number 3 biggest?? Lennart.larsen 07:14, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

As of the 2000 census, Daegu was larger, although not by very much. However, according to citizenship registration figures (somewhat less reliable than the census), Daegu had a population of 2,539,738 [1] at the end of 2004, while Incheon had 2,610,715 [2]. More tellingly, Daegu's population appears to be dropping slightly, while Incheon is continuing to grow. So until the census results of 2005 are announced, Daegu may technically remain the 3rd-largest city, but there does not seem to be much doubt that it has been surpassed by Incheon. Pity, really... I can't understand how people can survive in Incheon, let alone what might drive them to move there. Anyway, I guess this info should be added to the article. -- Visviva 11:12, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Someone changed the article and I fixed their attempted change. Clearly, the cities are about the same size, but the official government [website] lists the order as Seoul, Busan, Daegu and then Incheon so that's how I left it.Swegner 08:50, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

But actually the results of the 2005 census have been released by the NSO in Korean (not yet in English by KOSIS)... The results (or rather a summary) can be downloaded in PDF or HWP from here. On page 13, we find that Incheon's 2005 total was 2,531,000; on the other hand, Daegu's population fell slightly to 2,465,000. Sad but true: Daegu is now #4. -- Visviva 14:39, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Followup: The above link is now broken, but I have added a ref with a stable link to the online NSO database. There doesn't seem to be much doubt; and in fact today I found 2003 statistics that already showed Incheon in the lead; guess it would be overkill to cite that. It is really a pity; I can't imagine how anyone could choose to live in Incheon (or even how what Incheon offers could be called "life"), but there seem to be about 2.5 million people who feel otherwise. -- Visviva 08:46, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

An anon. IP account used for vandalism only is responsible for changing the introductory text that states and sources that Daegu is No. 4 according to the 2005 census. I've been changing it back, but I urge the anon. vandal to READ the introductory paragraph and this part of the talk page. Your edits are false and cannot be tolerated by this encyclopaedia project. Mumun 無文 11:57, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The fame of Daegu Yeoja, Seongju apples, etc

it might be difficult to provide citations for assertions such as the ones about the fine 50% of Daegu and apples, which by the way are offically Seongju apples, I think (didn't realize that they were exported, however, which is what the statement in the article implies). These are popular cultural assertions that everyone living in the local area hears and incorporates into their realities as Gyeongbuk people, and so they are important to include in articles such as this. How shall we deal with providing citations for such popular well known beliefs? Perhaps there are Korean publications about local Daegu culture that we can cite? PLease give your thoughts. Mumun 19:46, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

An interesting conundrum... For the first point, surely a photo of Dongseongno on a Saturday night would put any disputes to rest. :-) There must be a semi-reliable source that at least touches on the matter, but so far this Ohmynews piece is the closest thing I've found, and a random citizen journalist's opinion probably isn't enough. 지리로 읽는 대구 이야기 has a whole chapter on the men and women of Daegu, but from a purely demographic perspective. At any rate, the bit about the apples is fairly solid; I see export is mentioned in 내고장 의미찾기: 대구권역편, circa 1995, p. 51, and also here (and I'm sure better sources are out there). Although how "famed" they are I can't say. In general, I think we can find sources for most things that are worthy of note, but it will require some work. -- Visviva 05:58, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] recent edits to Daegu people

looks like vandalism, especially the stuff about biting fishcakes, etc. Would the persopn who added this highly unusual material please explain themselves fortwith? Of what importance is such material for an encyclopaedia that is supposed to introduce Daegu to the general public. Relevance? Mumun 16:16, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

I've removed the paragraph. The parts that weren't bizarre, unreferenced & irrelevant simply duplicated information from the "History" section. -- Visviva 16:24, 27 December 2006 (UTC)