Talk:Dachau Trials
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[edit] Requested move
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the proposal was already moved to Dachau Trials. If anyone is unhappy with the move by Barliner, please create a new request. Dekimasuよ! 03:44, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
I suggest the page is renamed Dachau Military Tribunal. This is more accurate,as the beginning of the article notes the tribunal was not International but controlled only by the US. This naming error is repeated in the Trench language stub but does not appear in the German language version. Barliner 11:46, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Requested move
Dachau International Military Tribunal→ Dachau Military Tribunal — {{{2}}} —Barliner 12:44, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Survey
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- Support: It appears that the official name for the trials at the time didn't involve "Military Tribunal" with or without "International". See transcripts at War Crimes Office (1948). Case Number 6-24 (US vs. Valentin Bersin et al). U.S. Army Trial Reviews and Recommendations. United States Department of War. Retrieved on 2006-12-18., where the court is called "Military Commission" or "General Military Government Court at Dachau, Germany". Thus I don't think either the present Wikipedia title or the proposed one without "International" will make a big difference for readers. Present Wikipedia articles link to existing and proposed titles (through a redirect). If the change is made, there certainly should be a redirect from the old name to the new one. --Jdlh | Talk 18:38, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
- Support: But perhaps Dachau camp Trials is more in keeping with other wikipedia entries eg Mathausen 82.22.139.25 19:26, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
- Support: The report of the US Senate Committee on the Malmedy Massacre Trial also uses the wording "General Military Government Court"[1] and never speaks about a "International military Tribunal". --Lebob-BE 10:38, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
- ^ Malmedy massacre Investigation – Report of the Subcommittee of Committee on armed services – United States Senate – Eighty-first Congress, first session, pursuant to S. res. 42, Investigation of action of army with respect to trial of persons responsible for the massacre of American soldiers, battle of the Bulge, near Malmedy, Belgium, December 1944, 13 octobre 1949, p. 21
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- This document (one of the cited documents used in the article) uses the term American Military Tribunal. "Heinz DETMERS: Deputy commandant of Dachau camp. Sentenced to be hanged by an American Military Tribunal 18.1.47. p.537" Also used in the same document is U.S. military court at Dachau.
- The cited source for the trial of Otto Skorzeny and others uses the term General Military Government court of the U.S. zone of Germany
- Trial of Ulrich Greifelt and others TRIAL OF ULRICH GREIFELT AND OTHERS United States Military Tribunal, Nurbmberg.(sic)
- The Dachau concentration camp trial General Military Government court of the United States Zone, Dachau, Germany
--Philip Baird Shearer 13:21, 1 September 2007 (UTC)