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1 No Survivors
2 Image
3 Darnit!
4 Mikhail Die?
5 Asked on the Lost wiki site....Abortion?
6 Portuguese
7 Li'l Details
8 Fair use rationale for Image:Hurley+New Girl.png
9 Fair use rationale for Image:Sun+Juliet1.png
10 Fair use rationale for Image:Sun+Juliet3.png

[edit] No Survivors

Hi, Not sure wher to post this, so I'll put it here. I wonder how can we relate the statement "they were all dead" to Michael & Walts supposed fleeing from the island. Did they leave? Went into hiding? or perhaps tey never escaped. 86.22.42.236 17:13, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image

Ive uploaded a few images i'll put my favoroute one on but if its to dramatic or not dramitic enough feel free to change it :D. Image links below i'll also put one in the article.

R0ck1t 17:16, 26 April 2007 (UTC) Have another for free:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sun%2BJuliet3.png

R0ck1t 17:33, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Darnit!

In the scant minutes it took me to write my synopsis, somebody else inserted theirs. Oh, well. Here's mine, just in case somebody wants one that's a little more compact:

In flashbacks, we see Sun in a park. A middle-aged woman sitting next to her points out Sun's wedding photograph in the newspaper and inquires if that's her. Sun affirms that it is. The woman suggests that it would be embarrassing if the world were to find out that a daughter from the wealthy Paik family had married a man with a shameful past. Sun says that she knows Jin is the son of a fisherman and doesn't care; the woman retorts that he is also the son of a prostitute. The woman then demands a hundred thousand dollars in three days or else she will expose Jin's past.

Later, Sun asks her husband about his family; he tells her that his mother died when he was a child, then gives conflicting stories on when his father died. When she pushes for more information, he grows angry and asks her to drop the issue. Sun visits Jin's father without his knowledge, who confirms the woman's story. He never told Jin his mother was a prostitute, and still alive, and pleads with Sun not to tell his son the truth.

Sun then visits her father and asks for the money. When he demands a reason, she tells him that she has never pried into his affairs, which are clearly illegal, and would like the same respect. However, she admits that the money will prevent great shame coming to someone she loves. Mr. Paik realizes she means Jin, and tells her that he will bear the debt by working for him directly, instead of as a floor manager.

Jin discovers the money in Sun's purse. She concedes she got it from her father, but claims it was just for furniture and their honeymoon. Jin says he doesn't want to be any further in her father's debt, and asks her to return it. Sun agrees, then goes directly to the park, when the woman is waiting. She gives her the money, then reveals that she knows the woman's identity: she is Jin's mother. The blackmailer callously shrugs this off and Sun threatens to have her father kill the woman if she reveals her existence to Jin.

Back on the island, Jack inquires about Sun's pregnancy in a manner that arouses her suspicions. Sun asks Kate about Jack's loyalty; Kate suggests she talk to Juliet, who reveals that pregnant woman die on the island. That night, Juliet sneaks into Sun's tent and offers to help her, but only if she comes with her, alone. The pair leave for the Staff, to get an ultrasound image, so Juliet can calculate the date of conception. Juliet reveals that women who conceived off the island can survive; those that conceive on the island can't. Sun explains how her husband was sterile before coming to the island, and how she had an affair with Jae Lee before the crash. Either way, it's bad news: either she's going to die, or the baby is not her husband's. Juliet performs the ultrasound, and confirms that the conception took place some forty days after the crash. Later, Juliet surreptitiously leaves a message for Ben on a tape recorder, explaining what her findings with Sun, and promising to get more samples from the other women. She then stops the tape and whispers, "I hate you."

Meanwhile, Desmond, Hurley, Jin and Charlie are arguing how to care for the parachutist when Hurley shoots off a flare. Mikhail Bakunin appears shortly thereafter. Jin pursues him; a brief fight ensues, which Jin wins. The other three question him, revealing that Sayid, Kate and Jack told them how he'd been supposedly killed by the sonic fence. Mikhail says he was a field medic and offers to help save the parachutist's life, if they promise to let him go. He keeps his word and they keep theirs, but Mikhail attempts to steal the satellite phone, only to be stopped yet again by Jin. After a brief argument, they allow Mikhail to leave. The parachutist regains consciousness while Hurley is watching over her. She asks him who he is; he tells her he is Hugo Reyes, from Oceanic flight 815. She replies that's impossible; they found the plane and there were no survivors.

If the general consensus is to keep the long version, please delete this. 63.215.28.84 12:22, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

This is better than the current version of the article. I'm going to replace the article plot with the above text, and keep the current text on my "draft" page. - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 23:57, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Can we please go back to italicizing the flashback sequences? (205.250.167.76 18:20, 27 April 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Mikhail Die?

Wait a minute, didn't Mikhail die?

It had appeared so, but now it seems not. --Minderbinder 13:06, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Dead doesn't necessarily mean dead. Matthew 13:08, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

I think its going to be a major plot point. We know the island has healing powers, maybe it goes beyond that and has the ability to bring the dead back to life, hence why the others bury their dead at sea and the phrase "nothing stays buried on the island for long"

Jack's dad's body mysteriously disappeared... ;) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 144.173.6.66 (talk) 17:28, 26 April 2007 (UTC).

However, when they dug up Edward Mars' body, he was very well decomposed and dead. I'm not sure the island's healing power goes THAT far. --71.225.54.135 03:03, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Asked on the Lost wiki site....Abortion?

Television, unless making a specific statement about it, shies away from the topic, but...why wouldn't Juliet atleast MENTION to Sun terminating the pregnancy to save her life? With the equipment in the Medical Hatch (forget the "name"), either Juliet or Jack could perform an abortion and save Sun's life? But it wasn't even brought up.

Because "Lost" is simultaneously science fiction and religious allegory, and the creators don't want to needlessly alienate half their viewers? 209.247.21.49 23:25, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Why is there discussion about "What COULD have been"? This is not a forum for idle discussion.— « hippi ippi » 09:35, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Because, as you say, television doesn't do abortions. Xiner (talk) 00:49, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Portuguese

It said that the girl mumble might be Portuguese. It is portuguese in brazilian accent. I chaged that. She sais: "Eu não estou só". I am not alone. --Tiagoknoch 18:38, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

I second that she says in portuguese "I'm not alone". It, however, sounded to me like an Spanish accent, not Brazilian Portuguese.

-- Ekalin 13:57, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Li'l Details

Did anyone catch the combination to Sun's dad's safe? I'll bet it has a few of the numbers (or maybe not, who knows?)

Also, do we have the translations for what Naomi said? Especially the part where Mikhail said she said "Thank you". --IntriguingPotato 00:21, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

The only digits you see Paik enter are 1347. Naomi says "I'm not alone"....in America! 01:13, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Hurley+New Girl.png

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Sun+Juliet1.png

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Sun+Juliet3.png

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