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	The following comments have been left for this page: Strengths: Multiple links, multiple subheads. Basic details seem accurate. Weaknesses: Some stilted phrasing, no bibliography of her various strip collections, no photo, no infobox. --Aaron 03:57, 16 October 2006 (UTC) (edit)

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I'm not sure exactly how D. C. Simpson would describe his relationship with David Brodbeck. Perhaps boyfriend, perhaps partner, perhaps lover? --Dfeuer 08:48, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

1 Why the move back?
2 Moving this page
3 "D.C." versus "Simpson"?
4 Gender
5 Scratch space for expanding this biography

[edit] Why the move back?

Cyberskull, I believe I moved this page in accordance with the Wikipedia policies on naming pages and moving pages. Could you please explain why you moved it back? --Dfeuer 16:16, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

I didn't see anything cited on the move as to why it was moved to a more ambiguous name. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 01:36, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Moving this page

I am moving David Craig Simpson to D. C. Simpson because, as I understand it it, the artist is most commonly known by that name. After that, he is most commonly called David Simpson. The page was called David Simpson before it was changed to avoid ambiguity. I have rarely seen his name written in full, so I believe the abbreviated form, which he himself prefers, is more appropriate.

See for example

Comixpedia interview with D. C. Simpson

and note

Statement by D. C. Simpson regarding his preferred name.

as well as the copyright notices and signatures on

I therefore believe the move is appropriate according to Wikipedia Guidelines Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people) and Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names), and the help page Help:Renaming (moving) a page.

--Dfeuer 19:07, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Should the MusicBrainz link be changed in some fashion to read D. C. Simpson rather than David Craig Simpson? I would do it myself, but I'm not sure how. Dfeuer 17:17, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

No, not at this time. If the actual MusicBrainz entry changes from David Craig Simpson to D.C. Simpson, then we can change it. –Abe Dashiell ^(t/c) 18:07, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "D.C." versus "Simpson"?

There's a mild question about whether to call this artist "D.C." or "Simpson". I had written new material using "D.C." as the artist's name; it was changed so that all references became "Simpson". Does anyone know which name D. C. Simpson prefers? Chip Unicorn 17:47, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Simpson was unsure over using their current name on the page for reasons that I assume you also know about. I'll contact them again about it to ask. --Barberio 20:38, 18 May 2006 (UTC) (ps. I'm Lamar)

Hihi, Lamar. Thanks for asking D. C. Simpson which name to use. Chip Unicorn 17:40, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

? He's unsure if he's a he now? 80.43.6.101 22:42, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Ah. I see. Good on ... her? 80.43.6.101 23:10, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

I changed the references to "Simpson" because that seemed far more appropriate in an encyclopedia article than the author's first and middle initials. Of course, if it should become possible to use a pronoun again, that would be great. Perhaps someone could ask DCS about that? Dfeuer 09:05, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

We could always try "Rain". :-) GreenReaper 19:02, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

With or without an -e? *giggle* Chip Unicorn 00:52, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gender

After seeing a new paragraph making the situation clear - and hence making the change "official for Wikipedia" - I've just rearranged the article to remove some of the painful constructions necessary to avoid choosing a gender. In doing so, I've moved the explanation to the front of the article. People may argue that it does not belong there, as it suggests that a person's non-standard sexual identity is the most interesting thing about them, and in principle they're right. However, in cases like this that necessitate the switching of pronouns, I feel it's far less confusing for people who aren't aware of the situation. If I were an Ozy & Millie reader who wasn't aware that David was now Dana I would probably assume I had found the wrong article or that it was seriously in error. PeteVerdon 19:36, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Just FYI: Dana's name change came around 2004. My copy of Ozy and Millie V: OM has "David Craig Simpson" on the front cover, and her editorial is signed David Craig Simpson, and dated October 2003. Chip Unicorn 05:20, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[1] Has the name David Craig Simpson plastered all over it. It was last updated sometime during or after 2005, judging by the copyright date. Are we sure this journal entry wasn't dated April 1st? ~ Oni Lukos _ct 00:18, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Sadly, Dana has made all of her entries on her LiveJournal "friends-only". The original post is no longer available, and none of the Internet references that I found were unambiguous. You're right; there's now more evidence on the Internet that DC Simpson stands for "David Craig" than "Dana Claire". Feh. Chip Unicorn 16:06, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm back to David Craig and "he," now. (Though "Rain" is acceptable, and covers all bases; I've been using that online handle for like ten years now). Let's leave it there. D.C. Simpson (comment was made 03:48, 11 November 2006)

It would be good to get some kind of reliable verification that User:Dcsimpson is actually D.C. Simpson. --Dfeuer 00:54, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

In a private message to me before the change to the entry, D.C. Simpson confirmed that he was no longer going by "Dana Claire", and he said that he was going to change his Wikipedia entry. Chip Unicorn 22:43, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Publicly available evidence: A message posted under his established user name on I Read This. --Dfeuer 00:41, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

The correct URL for the aforementioned I Read This post is now http://www.ireadthis.org/index.php?topic=1982.msg42535#msg42535, that site is in the process of a server move, and while both URLs currently work, the lupinia.us one will not be functional once the site has moved to the new location. --Felix J. Lockhart, not a user here —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.62.240.250 (talk) 05:35, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

It looks like he's a 'she' again. In this strip, "Madam President" clearly refers to Simpson. And just to remove any doubt, in this post not too long before that, it's clear that Simpson is identifying as a female in the final paragraph ("Speaking as a genuinely gender-confused Democrat who nevertheless feels she has the same right..."). - furrykef (Talk at me) 08:55, 30 May 2008 (UTC)