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This page needs cleaning up. It contains quite a few grammatical mistakes. I have fixed a few, but it needs more work.

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[edit] Naming

This will need to be standardised, as currently it's either D-12 or D12, there are even inconsistencies between the article's name "Detroit's D12" and the "D-12" used through-out the article. I'm going to suggest using D12 as the groups name, since that's what's used all over their official website [1]. However, they seem to spell their latest album as "D-12 World", which shouldn't be too hard to swallow, since they're two different things. If there a no objections I'll go ahead and make the necessary changes. – Quoth 01:04, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I've since corrected the inconsistencies in the article, using the name D12. – Quoth 08:48, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

  • Oppose. I added a third choice now to the dis-ambiguation page. Georgia guy 16:19, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Request withdrawn. Quite a valid disambiguation page now, although does anyone have a problem with removing the the album listed there, since it could easily be found in the groups article, if it's somehow mistyped... – Quoth 08:22, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Band

This is a rap group, not a band. --147.124.49.89 15:11, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Alliases

Does anyone know the alternatrive names of all the former members of D12. I feel that these should be included as there are technically always 12 members.(The Next Biggish Thing 15:18, 13 April 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Death of Proof

Since the investigation is still underway (4/25/06), is it unwise to say at this point that Proof was murdered? If he was shot out of self-defense, the term "murder" is probably incorrect. I'm not trying to dog on Proof by bringing this up (I'm a fan of D12 as well), but as the facts unfold, it's looking more like Proof fired the first shot and was fired upon only after he had fatally wounded another man. --buck 20:42, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

I've altered the phrasing regarding Proof's death to say that he was "shot to death" rather than "murdered", as it appears that he was fired upon out of self-defense. --buck 18:06, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

^^^It wasn't SELF-defence, he was defending his dead cousin, so it is murder.

Also should there be a link for Proof in the D12 template box at the bottom? I'm guessing his name was removed after he was killed, so seeing as he was an integral part of the group for some years a link to his page should be added into it.--124.180.180.196 06:17, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hmm

D-12 is pretty underrated... I mean sure, Kon Artis pretty much sucks, Kuniva sometimes sucks and it's hard to take Bizarre seriously as a Rapper. But of course Em, Swift and Proof are ill. Swift especially doesn't get the credit he deserves, I think he's not only the second best Rapper in D-12 but I think he's the 2nd best Rapper from Detroit, behind Eminem. Why do you think Swift usually spits right after Em on tracks and even sometimes goes before him? Swift been rippin shit up since "No One's Iller" on The Slim Shady EP--Tainted Drifter 06:34, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New member?

Who if anyone will replace Proof? And will D12 still be great without Proof, the groups heart and soul? personally i think obie trice would make a great member.--DaGrob 18:00, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

proof does not need replacing, cos no-one can replace him. D12 can still make music. also obie trice is crap.~~ user:hip-hop man 17:11, 14 december 2006

I agree with Da Grob. Obie Trice would be perfect for the group, and although no-one can replace Proof, Obie Trice is far from crap.

wtf why the hell would they replace proof they didnt replace bugz or anyone else that left the group?

Actually, they replaced him with Swifty McVay HeckXX 23:20, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

No ones replacing Proof. Without Proof there would be no D12. They know that and they respect him. Plus they already made two albums. TahoeLT 05:23, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Honestly, D12 Sucked with or without Proof, He sucked, you only say he was good because he is dead. Em cant even rap either. Royce had more talent than all of them. Proof sounded like a grinding old machine.

[edit] disambiguiation.

The term d12 does not solely refer to this band and should be a disanbisuiation page that allows readers to choose which content they wish to read about. shadzar|Talk|contribs 03:23, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kuniva

Um, what is the point of having a Kuniva link, when it just redirects to D12? I think there should be an article about Kuniva. HeckXX 23:20, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Former member Kanival?

Kanival; left the group to rap under The Black Wall Street Records label. Myspace.com/kanival

^^ This guy is as old as me... 17...

Selfish self promotion. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sabertooth (talk • contribs) 15:02, 3 April 2007 (UTC).

I've searched everywhere I could look and no one named Kanival has ever been associated with D12 or Black Wall Street.

Delete name. It's ruining the D12 page.

[edit] Singles Descriptions

I think that there should be an edit about "40 0z." and "U R The One". The page won't allow me to.


D12 was ruining the D12 page

[edit] D12's third LP

Under Swift's incarceration, it reads "the third D12 album, with a tentative release date of sometime between March and May of 2008. This was announced by Bizarre on the popular Rap Basement Message Board, in which D12 members occasionally post."

First off, Bizarre made that statement in an interview with MLIVE.com. Secondly, could we delete the part that states that the album will release between March and May of 2007? It is June 14th and no D12 album has released yet.

Are you blind, or just stupid? The current year is 2007.

Kuniva posted on D12 World's forum again stating that he doubts that the album will release in 2007. Since 50 Cent is dropping in September and Eminem is focused on promoting Ca$his and Stat Quo this year. Look forward to the D12 album in early '08 since Kuniva said that they've been told that they will release before this time next year.

http://www.d12world.com/index.php?s=news#newsitem1182448162,76448 states that "D12 is' currently "on hold," he says. Their forthcoming third album is 70 percent done, by his estimation, but so far boasts no input or content from Eminem." Once Stat Quo drops (in August) and Ca$his drops around October then Eminem will work on finishing off his album. Once Eminem's album drops, he will contribute his part to D12's third LP; not D12's third album - they had an Underground EP.

Impala63 01:11, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The new album will NOT be called Natural Born Killers...

Kuniva himself has stated that the album will not be given that title...Source: http://board.rapbasement.com/showpost.php?p=6134210&postcount=44
Yes, that really is him...

--Aunwit 02:00, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] bottom table...

how do you edit that table at the bottom page? Eye-Kyu · Fuzz Scoota · Killa Hawk · Bugz · Proof · Flexy Buzz <<< needs to be removed... --Aunwit 00:02, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Myspace announcements section

I haven't bothered to confirm this fact, but I wonder, is it really nessisary to quote the message? -Verdatum (talk) 17:09, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

I personally think it's not needed...(Aunwit (talk) 23:22, 31 January 2008 (UTC))

[edit] 1993

Since When did they start in 1993? Mcanmoocanu —Preceding comment was added at 02:59, 16 March 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Order of group members

I switched the order of the group members to alphabetical: it doesn't make sense to have Eminem at the top arbitrarily when he's barely associated with the group these days and isn't even on the new mixtape. Alphabetical seems to make more sense. 86.157.89.33 (talk) 19:06, 13 May 2008 (UTC)