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To-do list for D-STAR: edit · history · watch · refresh

Here are some tasks you can do:
  • Other: Come up with some history on the actual D-STAR protocol, how it relates to the codec etc. A lot of this I seem to remember being in the wiki, was it accidentally removed or am I just not seeing it?

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[edit] No more external linking from this article, please.

I have to agree with McNeight in that this wiki has gotten a little out of control in terms of external linking. Links that would be appropriate would be those that point to a article or sound bite by a credible source such as the ARRL. I think a lot of the links that were being posted here could have been grouped onto a website or even crossed meshed between sites which would in turn bring awareness to visitors of your yahoogroups page, webpage etc on the size and popularity of D-STAR on the Internet. I by no means want this to become a brick wall for those that are just putting up a website for D-STAR. I highly recommend that if you're just putting up a website that you get in contact with some of the other sites and come up with an agreement to cross link each ones website. --We6jbo (talk) 18:27, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] What needs improving?

Through out the life of this wikipage on D-STAR, I have noticed that there has been significant changes. Now would be a good time to ask what needs improving? Is there content that needs to be added and if so, what should that content be? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.62.18.62 (talk) 03:41, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Are we heading the right direction re. this Wiki page

I just want to emphasize to everyone on the direction that we're going with this Wiki page. One of the things that is troubling me is that we have all these talented persons contributing to this Wiki page and yet this page still remains as a low importance on the importance scale. I want everyone to ask themselves, how important is D-STAR if the Wiki that defines D-STAR is of low importance? Through out my time as a user of D-STAR equipment I have seen the type of growth in this community that is shocking. D-STAR is a force that is changing the way that HAMs communicate in the air. The amount of information coming from this change must be tremendous. These are the kinds of reasons to why I would say that the importance of D-STAR is much greater than what it's being rated at right now on this Wiki. The person that is grading this Wiki should be ashamed to give this page a rating of low importance and yet I'm not totally sure if this rating is at all bias. The amount of user boards being linked on this Wikipage tells me that there is even more information out there just ready to be told to the world. Right now we have posting of articles and media. We also have a definition and some information about the software that allows D-STAR to tick. This is a great start to a great D-STAR Wiki page that's gotta make the Wikipedia creators proud. Now let's just try a little harder and see if we can change the face of HAM radio operators to where they understand how important D-STAR is to HAM radio and the further advances of technology.--We6jbo (talk) 02:00, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

  • I may be splitting hairs, but this is not "the Wiki that defines D-STAR", but rather a Wikipedia article (attempting) to describe D-STAR. I am not saying that this Wikipedia entry is not important, I'm just saying that I think you are over-stating its importance. -- ZL2GDN 203.100.208.50 (talk) 14:24, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
    • You're right and I also want to say that I'm very proud of the work that's been done in this few days. I'm also glad that history is a main objective. --We6jbo (talk) 20:31, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Talk

  • Please don't refer to yourself ("the author") in articles. Please read other suggestions I wrote on your talk page. Wickethewok 06:48, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

This page does indeed read a bit like an Icom advertisement. It's important technology, to be sure, and Icom has every right to be proud, but I'd rather see the codecs involved, datarates, and differentiations between the standard FM/PM radios and D-Star radios... Ah, well. I don't feel much like doin' it. Jdos2 18:02, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

I did find some information about the codec here http://www.dvsinc.com/products/a2020.htm along with samples on the page. They are forig.wav and f2400.wav D-Star uses 2.4 as the information stated here, http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/regulations/techchar/D-STAR.pdf 1.1.2 Let me know if you feel this would be acceptable information for D-Star. Thanks and I'll work on it some more this week and after Fathers day. We6jbo 08:45, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

The PDF covers it pretty well. Thanks for the pointer!

[edit] Cleanup

This article is in need of an opening section that describes what D-Star is at a high level and then subsections that go into more details.--Kharker 18:10, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Agreed. I don't really what know D-Star is and can't really figure it out based on this article. Wickethewok 03:16, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Let us know if the page looks cleaned up or if there's anything that you feel is missing. Thanks and appreciate the help you've given us to make this a great wiki page We6jbo 00:55, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

  • I'm going to try and take on some cleanup work here. I've been reading about D-Star in CQ and QST for the last couple of years, so it should make for a nice little research project. --StuffOfInterest 20:48, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Looks good. I think your way of citing information is a lot better too. We6jbo
      • Thanks. Unfortunately, I had to remove a lot of material being that it was copy/pasted from outside sources. Hopefully some more original text or outside developed diagrams can be added later. Note that I found D-STAR on two other wikis, but from what I could make out they didn't have much more we could use. --StuffOfInterest 19:32, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copy & Paste plus odd image files

I've started doing some cleanup work on the article. Unfortunatley, I've found something disturbing. There appears to be a lot of copy & paste from Icom's and other websites. This is not allowed as it is a copyright violation. The sections with this text need to be redone or they will have to be removed. Of particular concern right now are the Overview, History, and Technical information sections. Specific features is currently nothing but a quote, but at least it is labeled as such. Still, all of these need to be redone.

Another area I'm cocerened about is the uploading of non image content such as PDF files. I'll need to do some research but I thought the image function was mainly intended for in articule illustrations and not reference material. Such material probably belongs on WikiSource or it should be kept as an off site external link. I'll try and find out more but if someone else can provide some insight here it would be helpful. Thanks. --StuffOfInterest 13:47, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

I just took a bunch of the copy/paste text out with this edit. Better to have the article as a stub than to have plagerization in there which could cause trouble. Try reading the related articles and put the material in your own words. Even with that, still use reference links to show where you are getting the information. As time permits I'll try to get some of the technical details distilled out myself. --StuffOfInterest 18:43, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bias information

Clearly a lot of the information for the D-Star wiki is bias and needs to be edited content wise. 66.91.245.251 22:44, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Please expand on this. Anonym1ty 23:33, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Any words that might strike of POV need to be avoided. --PhantomS 07:36, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Um.. Ok then. Anonym1ty 16:13, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestions as per WP:RADIO assessment request

From a quick glance, it looks like there needs to be a discussion of the history of the device. Also, you should tell more about the standard and the process that went into the creation of the standard. Also, how closely do the devices keep to the standard versus adding proprietary additions, etc. --PhantomS 07:36, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Some additions were made including some history. There are a few missing dates which I'm still researching. I also added a D-Star project section to demonstrate some of the additions to D-Star i.e., ARPS d*Chat. We6jbo 08:40, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Images that have been taken by myself, and may be used on D-Star related projects, by anyone.

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[edit] Introduction

I re-wrote the introduction. I'm not intending offense at whoever wrote it; I just think it needed a little bit more specificity and re-wording. I took out the part about HF; I'm not personally aware of D-Star HF radios. I may very well be wrong, which is why I'm posting here. Does anyone know of any? I know my intro isn't perfect, but hopefully should be a good starting point for any changes. K8ARW 20:05, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Work being done is better than no work at all. :)We6jbo 06:14, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] D-STAR done in many languages

This may be a little too soon to ask this. D-STAR is a protocol that ICOM has implemented into their radios and has sold these radios in many regions of the world. These regions are not bound to only English which we have learned when the gateway decided to go world wide not too long ago. In order to provide the same level of information to everyone and not only English speakers, I'd like to ask someone or a few or many to start interpreting this or part of this or even a new version of this Wiki to different languages. I've copied the main page containing a few of these languages to here, Deutsch · Español · Français · Italiano · Nederlands · 日本語 · Polski · Português · Svenska. Then let's make a link to the D-STAR topic on this wiki so that anyone that is looking for information on D-STAR can do so with out having to look for a article in their own language. We6jbo (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 18:20, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Neutrality" of technical details?

OK, who disputed the "Technical Details" section's neutrality? There's nothing in it that's the least bit subjective. These are all factual specifications. Scott Johnson (talk) 15:28, 16 January 2008 (UTC) Looks like this was placed in the wrong spot and should be under Importance of Digital Technology and D-STAR. 76.88.84.5 (talk) 00:10, 18 January 2008 (UTC)