User talk:Cyberherbalist

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1 Mike Gregoire
2 Mike G
3 Image:GregoirePicture.jpg
4 Orphaned fair use image (Image:OzarksAIDSLogo.jpg)
5 Replaceable fair use Image:LFrank_by_PBoss.jpg
6 Black Bear Diner
7 7th Infantry Regiment (United States)
8 ACN Inc.
9 Orphaned non-free media (Image:Acn logo small.gif)
10 MLM articles of interest
11 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Cover ThereIWas.jpg
12 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:PorterBruceD.jpg
13 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:AcornSoupbyLFrank.jpg
14 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Cover Janissaries Novel by JerryPournelle.jpg
15 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Cover Onslaught Novel by DavidSherman.jpg
16 Olympia Amateur Radio Society
17 Orphaned non-free media (Image:Oars logo.jpg)

[edit] Mike Gregoire

I've put a merge tag on the Mike Gregoire article which I believe you created... I can't see anything notable about him, being the first "first gentleman" is certainly a first but through no real fault of his own. Does this really make him notable per WP:BIO? A mention on the Christine Gregoire page will suffice. You have first call on merging the info, I'll probably do it in a couple of days if you don't get round to it. Deiz 02:52, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that's mine. I put the article up because of an empty link in the spouse box on Gov Gregoire's article. It appears to be the plan around here to provide an article for each US state governor's spouse (new layout, you've seen it I'm sure). You can find this on virtually every incumbent governor's article. A few of these have articles.--Mike 08:40, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

"It seems to be the plan" doesn't automatically override the WP:BIO criteria.. He scores 1800 total / 306 unique googles which is low. But I'll see what the other pages are like and if it really is the way forward then fair enough. Deiz 09:14, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, I can't argue that Mr. Gregoire is independently remarkable. For consistency's sake, if he doesn't rate, and other governor spouses don't rate, then the whole raftload of governor spouse redlinks (just saw that term for the first time) should be delinked and let them be relinked on a case-by-case basis by whoever thinks they deserve an article. --Mike 09:21, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

I think you've struck gold with that last idea... the tagging of redlinks on names of people that aren't known to be notable by the tagger is a huge source of cruft (crap) in WP these days, you did really well to research up a page but probably ignore those redlinks if you don't immediately know yourself that a person is actually notable... As a general point this isn't a realm of knowledge I have much / any interest or knowledge in so I probably won't get involved in any consistency mission but it would help. The ideal here is that Mike Gregoire should redirect to Christine Gregoire but is unlinked in the infobox and elsewhere on her page. Deiz 21:08, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mike G

I've gone all out and redirected Mike to Christine, and delinked his name in her infobox. By all means you could add a little more about him in her article but... nice one Deizio 03:32, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:GregoirePicture.jpg

There were many problems with this image. It had no real source information, meaning we don't know who the photographer or copyright holder is. It was described as coming from a press kit but licensed under the GFDL, which is extremely unlikely. An editor then changed the licensing information to make a Wikipedia:Fair use claim on it, which, while at least more accurate in terms of not misleading anybody, cannot be done with an unsourced image of a living person per Wikipedia:Fair use criteria.

Someone just needs to find a federal government-employee-taken photograph of this person (or any other freely licensed photo), or request one from her office and email the release to permissions AT wikimedia DOT org. Jkelly 21:14, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

OK, I've just talked with the governor's communications office and they say that the image linked at the bottom of the page [1] is her official photograph and may be used freely. Is the notation of "official portrait" on the governor's official web page sufficient? I think maybe not, because the previous governor's image on his article is definitely a state-created image, not the federal gov't, yet that's what it says. Do we have a slight permissions problem, or maybe the permissions policy needs to take US states into account? I checked WA governors back to Dixy Lee Ray and the images are all incorrectly attributed for permissions purposes. A couple are claimed to be created by the feds when they are clearly official WA portraits, and one is sourced to the WA state guard (for Gardner), of all things --- even though it looks like a photo taken at a barbecue by a private party. Ray's photo is likely the gov's official photo, but was obviously scanned from a newspaper. Geeze, what a hodgepodge. Mike 21:35, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

There's this idea that because the US federal gov't releases material into the public domain, that the states must as well. That is mostly not true, and US state gov't copyright is just like any other copyright, but there's a lot of confusion around it, and people are more likely to go looking for a tag that will avoid the deletion of the "it must be free because it is a state gov't photo" than stopping to consider that it is possible that we can't use it. In any case, with Gregoire's official photo, just have someone at her office email permissions AT wikimedia DOT org stating that the photograph can be used for any purpose and then we can go ahead and use that. Note that this has to include commercial and derivative use; they may not have thought of that when they said "used freely" -- they may just have meant "free of charge". Jkelly 21:59, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Black Bear Diner

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[edit] 7th Infantry Regiment (United States)

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Yeah, yeah. I fixed it. Sheesh. :-)

[edit] ACN Inc.

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[edit] MLM articles of interest

I just thought you might be interested in reading some of the articles on the website http://www.pyramidschemealert.org/PSAMain/resources/resources.html . http://www.pyramidschemealert.org/PSAMain/news/MythofMLMIncome.doc.pdf is a interesting read, with an explanation why 99% recruits must fail (if you didn't like the explanations I have already given). Also http://www.pyramidschemealert.org/PSAMain/resources/12tests1.pdf is a good test that you should apply on ACN Inc. Tristan.buckmaster 07:13, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

No, I'm not interested in reading them. If they contain the same kind of fractured logic your pronouncements contain I think I got the word already thanks.

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Done.

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