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This page was originally for listing cut and paste moves which could not be repaired due to a then-extant technical limitation. The limitation has since been removed, but this page is still available if you find a cut-and-paste move, and are not able to repair it yourself (There is a procedure for doing it, but 1. only admins can do it, and 2. it's a bit tricky).

Currently the only technical limitation is that category and image description pages can't be moved.

Admins: please read Wikipedia:How to fix cut-and-paste moves and Wikipedia:Moving guidelines for administrators.

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[edit] The procedure

  • Place a {{db-histmerge|NAME OF PAGE THE ARTICLE WAS CUT FROM}} template at the new location of the article which has been moved through cut and pasting, i.e. on the article where the pasting was done.
  • If the issue is clear-cut (straight up cut and paste move to a better title), having this speedy delete tag on the page should be enough. In more complex cases (explained at Wikipedia:How to fix cut and paste moves), please leave a description of the problem under the "Repair requests" section.
  • An admin will look the pages over and perform whatever tasks are necessary.
  • Once this is done, the admin will post the result here.
  • Old requests will be removed after 30 days.

[edit] Repair requests

Please add new requests to the top of the New Requests section. Thanks.

[edit] New requests

[edit] Queried requests

[edit] Completed requests

  • Could someone restore the page histories that were deleted at Braun Racing when the page was moved over a redirect. These look like they were backwards merged like the Yates Racing/Newman Haas debacle that was fixed earlier this month and the deleted histories will be needed to fix. Just restore them each to a temp pages for now. Thanks -- Cmjc80 (talk) 02:52, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
    • Braun Racing has 3 deleted edits: the first of these is a stub article dated 19:32, 11 November 2005, and the other two are redirects to Akins-Braun Racing and Akins-Braun Racing, all 3 being by User:D-Day.
    • Deleted redirect edits are often found under articles which have been moved by an admin over a redirect. Is this requested undeletion necessary? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:51, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
      • Braun Racing was also merged incorrectly. The edits prior to Feb 9 2006 need to be moved to Akins Motorsports and the first edit mentioned above to the original Braun Racing article should be merged into the current one. -- Cmjc80 (talk) 01:46, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
        • Still query re the Braun Racing etc edits. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:31, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
          • What happened was that Braun Racing purchased Akins Motorsport. Unfortunately when the pages were merged, Akins Motorsports was turned into main article when it should have been the redirect. The original Akins edits need to be split off into their own article so that page can be expanded about its pre-merge history. The intital few edits made to Braun Racing should be restored as the start of that article. Right now, the wikipedia article for Braun Racing is actually older than the team itself. -- Cmjc80 (talk) 22:25, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
    • Page Akins Motorsports currently has only 3 edits, all redirects. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:37, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
    • Y Done. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:59, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

*Italian Empire → Italian Colonial Empire

History merge Y Done. Thanks, mattbr 11:10, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Heavens no - the BEV article only has a few edits, starting with,[6] the electric car article goes back to July 2005, and needs to have the discussion and history moved. This is the first edit for the to do page and refers to the BEV article.[7] I have been pretty much avoiding both articles until the mess gets cleaned up. 199.125.109.105 (talk) 20:57, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
There is only one edit to Talk:Electric car that has to be merged in after moving talk:Battery electric vehicle to talk:Electric car, and I do not see any edits to talk:battery electric vehicle at all, although there is a todo page for both articles. 199.125.109.29 (talk) 19:35, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
You can also move Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Battery electric vehicle to /Electric car 199.125.109.29 (talk) 20:51, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Is that Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Battery electric vehicle and Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Electric car? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:18, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes - it shows up as a broken link at the top of the talk:Electric car page where it says "view its sub-page". 199.125.109.89 (talk) 16:41, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Requests not done

  • Mackinac Point Light → Old Mackinac Point Light - per request at WP:RM. JPG-GR (talk) 00:09, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
    • N Not done. Looks like two pages edited in parallel, perhaps plus various copy-and-pastes between them. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:22, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
  • WFLB and WAZZ: {Discuss}: WFLB appears to have been created for the purpose of describing an FM station located in Fayetteville, North Carolina. I intended to edit the article about the station but didn't get around to it because my source had information related to other stations. One of those stations was WAZZ, and I made the majority of contributions to that article. When I looked at the WFLB article intending to add to it, I realized nearly all the content (the rest was links and templates) referred to WAZZ (once called WFLB) or to a defunct TV station, and the WAZZ-related content should be moved to the WAZZ article. But copying and pasting the content would be improper because the original contributors to the WFLB article would no longer be in the history that goes with that content.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:29, 20 March 2008 (UTC).
    • Histmerge impossible, as these two pages have been edited in parallel. I made the text merge. The text in page WAZZ "On August 1, 1996, ... bought WFLB along with WAZZ and WEWO. ...... Soon after that in 1997, the station swapped letters with WAZZ." seems to imply that there are two radio stations involved, WFLB and WAZZ; someone who knows more than me about the history of USA radio stations please clarify. (I live in England.) Did radio stations WFLB and WAZZ genuinely take each other's letter codes in 1997? Or what happened? The existing text seems to be all about the radio station that was WFLB and is now WAZZ; some information would be useful about the radio station that was WAZZ and is now WFLB. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 07:11, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
    • I was waiting to add that text until the actions were completed so I would know I was editing an article entirely about what is now WFLB. Thanks.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 13:55, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
    • Okay, done. I had some other sources (newspaper articles mostly) but I'm going to wait and deal with them later. For now, what I have done is enough.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 14:37, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
    • Histmerge N Not done. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:34, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Emergency tourniquet & Tourniquet. I realize that this isn't really a copy and paste situation, but hear me out. The page currently known at "Emergency tourniquet" used to be named "Tourniquet." On 2 April 2007, "Tourniquet" was moved to "Emergency tourniquet," and a new stub was started at "Tourniquet." A few weeks later (and after 2 very minor edits), on 29 April 2007, the "Emergency tourniquet" article was abandoned a sentence or two used to create another article (Emergency bleeding control). Now, I want to revive the old "Emergency tourniquet" article (a decent article) and move it back to "Tourniquet" (still a stub after almost 1 year). Rather than renaming the current "Tourniquet" article to a new page that will never again be accessed just to preserve the history, why not history merge the articles? There are only 2 overlapping edits that are very minor. Otherwise, these articles developed sequentially with no parallel edits. If these articles are merged, I would then revert to this version and continue editing from there, merging back some content from the current stub page. I think this is the best way to handle the situation, as there would be no copying and pasting between articles. --Scott Alter 19:29, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
    • No. Merging parallel histories creates muddle. Currently, Tourniquet briefly describes the two sorts of medical tourniquet and links to full descriptions of each sort in Emergency tourniquet and Surgical tourniquet; this situation seems satisfactory to me. I have reverted page Emergency tourniquet from a redirect to a text file. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 20:53, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
      • Having done some work on this area in emergency bleeding control, I believe that there is no justification for the separation of emergency and surgical tourniqets, and they should all be merged under tourniquet. OwainDavies (about)(talk) edited at 09:24, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
    • I get the impression from these articles that a surgical tourniquet is most often a pneumatic device, and an emergency tourniquet is anything that can be used as a tourniquet. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 11:26, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
      • I believe the reason surgical tourniquet got its own article is because it is pneumatic. However, the general use of the term tourniquet is non-pneumatic, but not necessarily for emergency use. Non-pneumatic usage is much more common for venipuncture than it is to stop emergency bleeding. I don't think "tourniquets for venipuncture" needs a separate article than tourniquets for bleeding control. I requested the history merge because there were no parallel histories (until your recent changes), besides two minor edits immediately after one article was turned into a redirect. --Scott Alter 00:24, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
    • The current situation seems to be satisfactory. Page Emergency tourniquet has the history of the long article about emergency tourniquets. Page Tourniquet has the history of the short article which is a short summary and a disambig between Emergency tourniquet and Surgical tourniquet. The move from Tourniquet to Emergency tourniquet is listed in Tourniquet's log as "23:17, 2 April 2007 Gnoble (Talk | contribs | block) moved Tourniquet to Emergency tourniquet ‎ (This article deals principally with emergency tourniquets, and not other types like surgical tourniquets. This move is being made as part of several other changes and additions to the Wiki tourniquet-related content.)", i,e, it was a proper move, not a cut-and-paste. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 11:32, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
    • N Not done, as no discussion in the last 10 days. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:26, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Requests which cannot be fulfilled

  • WKAP (former Allentown radio station) and WYHM → WSAN - The station changed their call sign to WYHM and changed formats in 2006 but the article was never moved and a new page was created for WYHM. When the format and call sign was changed again in 2007 to the current WSAN aother new article was created. According to the guidelines on Wikipedia:WikiProject Radio Stations, the station article should have just been moved to the new call letters both times with a new section added for each format. Since most of the info on the pages are redundant, and it should have remained one article all along, the page histories should just be merged. Thanks, RobDe68 (talk) 22:40, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
    • This is an example of copy-and-paste, not cut-and-paste. These articles have overlapping history. In fact, they all currently exist. History merging them is inappropriate because it would shuffle all the edits together chronologically, which would destroy their context. It could be that two or more of these pages should be merged, but a history merge is not needed; just redirect the extras. If you need to combine some of the content, just note the location for the original content, then paste it into the final destination. Turn the merged article into a redirect, and the history should be left there for future reference. Cool Hand Luke 23:15, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
      • I made both pages redirects to their section in the main article. I still think the lion's share of the station's history (keep in mind all 3 articles are essentially about the same station) is on the redirect "WKAP (former..." and should be with the main article page, but I guess that's just not possible. RobDe68 (talk) 17:59, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
        • I moved some pages around so that the original article is now the main page and the 2 newer articles are now redirects. I made a note on the talk page that some edit history for that station can be found on the redirect pages. I think that's the best that can be done in this case. Thanks, RobDe68 (talk) 21:50, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
    • N Not done. Attempt to get histmerged two pages which were being edited in parallel. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 14:14, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
  • List of billionaires (2008) and List of billionaires (2007) - picked up by User:CSBot - not sure if we need a merge, or if (more liklely) we GNU is satisfied by the edit summary history. Listing here to be sure. The Evil Spartan (talk) 17:03, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Star Wars: Clone Wars and Star Wars: Clone Wars (TV series) → Star Wars: Clone Wars (TV series) - history is all about the place on both pages. The following requested move is uncontroversial so I'm lumping it in here. Will (talk) 15:38, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
    • It looks a lot like parallel versions to me. While Star Wars: Clone Wars was being edited, there may have been minor copy-and-pasting between the 2 pages to keep them in step. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 17:39, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
      • Should the histories be merged anyway? Will (talk) 16:37, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
        • Do not histmerge versions which have been edited in parallel. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:46, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
    • N Not done Cool Hand Luke 17:59, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Ordos culture and Ordos people
    • It's probably too late to do anything about this but a cut-n-paste occurred here when the content of Ordos people was moved to Ordos culture. Ordos people was made a redirect to Ordos culture a few days later. Both pages have prior and subsequent histories. The current location (Ordos culture) is a better location for the subject (the prehistoric people) but I want to make a stub for the modern Ordos people (a Mongol subgroup) and wonder if the history could all be consolidated before I do it. — AjaxSmack 20:14, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
    • Parallel histories, so can't histmerge. Page Ordos people was started by copy-and-paste, not cut-and-paste. Leave it. Rename the current page Ordos people as Ordos (ancient people) and start a new page Ordos (modern people)? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:46, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Venus Doom Live (history) needs to be merged with Digital Versatile Doom (history). Venus Doom Live is a redirect to Digital Versatile Doom. Digital Versatile Doom is the correct name for the article, but Venus Doom Live was created before Digital Versatile Doom was. — Save_Us † 00:09, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Inclusive and exclusive we > Clusivity (former is currently redirect, but has longer edit history).
  • Sprint Corporation->Sprint Nextel Cut/paste moved on August 12 2005. Leave the post Aug 12 edits(redirects and vandalism) at Sprint Corporation. -- Cmjc80 (talk)
    • This one should not be done. The Sprint Nextel article was based upon Sprint Corporation, but also an older version of Sprint Nextel that existed before August 2005. These versions were inadvertently deleted in a previous merge and never restored. I have restored them, so now one can see that the two articles existed simultaneously and were edited apart from each other before 14 Aug, 2005. Therefore, these separate threads should not be merged together. Very good catch. I've been impressed with your finds. Cool Hand Luke 07:42, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
      • Cool, works for me Cmjc80 (talk) 01:15, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
    • N Not done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:42, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
  • "The Ruptured Duck (B-25)" and "Ruptured Duck (aircraft)" - request merge page histories. Snowman (talk) 11:29, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Darth Sidious (a redirect) → Palpatine - There was not any cutting and pasting, but I believe they developed separately for a while before they were merged. Darth Sidious seems to have a significant history. - Maximillion Pegasus (talk) 01:39, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
    • They did indeed develop simultaneously. For that reason, a history merge would be inappropriate. The edits would be hopelessly shuffled together. Cool Hand Luke 02:08, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
    • N Not done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:49, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Battle of the Bridge of Calderón > Battle of Calderón Bridge (former is currently redirect, but has slightly longer edit history; duplicate articles started within 24 hrs of each other).
    Thanks in advance. Aille (talk) 23:58, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Court TV -> Tru TV Channel changed names on Jan 1 2008, please histmerge. If possible, please do no include the Jan 1 edits to Court TV as the page should have been a straight move. -- Cmjc80 (talk) 22:20, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
    • History merge looks inappropriate to me. They are the same network and should be merged, but the Tru TV article was re-written from scratch and has a different history. Cool Hand Luke 04:27, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
      • The page was supposed to be moved and rewritten on the new page. Why do you want to loose 4 years of edit history to a redirect page? Even the editor that made the new page(Mr. Senseless) agrees it was the incorrect thing to do Talk:TruTV -- Cmjc80 (talk) 04:42, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
        • When topics are merged, the history of one of them always stays at the redirect. There are tons of redirects with years worth of history. Cool Hand Luke 07:01, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
    • N Not done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:42, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

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