Talk:Curtin University of Technology

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

	Portal This article is part of WikiProject Universities, an attempt to standardise coverage of universities and colleges. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this notice, or visit the project page, where you can join the project or contribute to the discussion.
Start	This article has been rated as Start-Class on the quality scale.

Portal	Curtin University of Technology is within the scope of WikiProject Australia, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Australia and Australia-related topics. If you would like to participate, visit the project page.
Start	This article has been rated as Start-class on the quality scale.
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the importance scale.
	This article has been marked as needing immediate attention.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Western Australia.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Education in Australia.
Assessment comments This article has been rated for quality and/or importance but has no comments yet. If appropriate, please review the article and then leave comments here to identify the strengths and weaknesses of the article and what work it will need.

Contents 1 neutrality 2 Marketing Hype 3 this article 4 What criteria does this university have for the maturity of its students?

[edit] neutrality

Why is the article not neutral? Could anything be done to help? I think it could have the potential to be a featured article, the first ever on an Australian university.

--EuropracBHIT 07:04, 4 April 2006 (UTC).

I'm not sure. Perhaps it is due to this, and following comments; "Curtin is regarded by many as having the premier Business School in Western Australia", as without a citation or three it could be interpreted as biased. Further, the neutrality of this article could depend on who wrote it - if it was written by the university itself then a clear neutrality issue is established. I wonder, however, whether all articles on universities would suffer similar problems, and should be held with a pinch of salt. Having said all that, though, it would be helpful if the person who questioned the neutrality of the article explained (on this discussion page) why s/he decided to do so, if anything to allieveiate my excessive speculation. ;)

There is that and

• claims of reputation, popularity, and effective marketing without measurements or sources
• the Bentley campus tour with unencyclopaedic cafeteria menus and advertising material ("Best prices on contact lenses", "not your regular everyday café")
• the list of student organisations shows bias through incompleteness and is probably too detailed for encyclopaedic interest
• the parking section is written in a tendentious fashion
• the Sarawak campus section sounds like it's been plagiarised from Curtin advertising material ("The ultimate reward is the attainment of a prestigious internationally acclaimed Curtin degree.")

—LX (talk, contribs) 23:17, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

As an aside, i think its interesting to note that the article, immediately after the introduction, goes on to discuss the food outlets at Curtin, instead of past, present and ongoing research items of note, or similar discussions. It suggests a somewhat interesting set of priorities. The pictures look nice, though. 58.7.210.43 05:48, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Not really - up until recently, Curtin has had a strong student focus - so while food outlets might be wierd, research projects of note would be too - descriptions of the Courses would make more sense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.72.148.102 (talk • contribs)

The main reason that the article focuses on food and social clubs is that it is written almost entirely by various students. As far as I know none of the staff have done much to it. And of course, most students find food and drinking of more interest than acedemics, if only because everybody already knows their own facalty and generally has little interest in everyone elses. (Yes, if it isn't imediately obvious I'm one of the above students.) I'll see what I can do to tighten the article up a bit. Morgrim 05:19, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

-s_viper Hey EuropracBHIT, I see your point about the "premier Western Australian business school" claim. But are you here in WA? It somewhat common knowledge amongst graduating secondary school students that if you want to do sciences and arts, go to University of WA, while if you want to study business, Curtin's the place. Any suggestions how to verify such mentality? Cheers.

[edit] Marketing Hype

I am an academic at Curtin and monitor this page a bit. I am a little unhappy with the marketing hype in the section, Curtin Sarawak. While this campus is good, and the staff dedicated and it provides a good-quality education, the tone of the piece suggests it has been lifted out of an advertising brochure....

G'day Academic_at_Curtin. (I've taken the liberty of moving your comment into its own section...) Ummmm... The answer is fairly obvious: be bold. If you have a problem with something, do a bit of homework, and fix it! By the way, you will find registering yourself to be advantageous in many ways -- then (among other benefits) you can have a user tag like this: Gordon | Talk, 7 October 2006 @06:05 UTC

I've removed just about all of the section, as it was indeed a copyright infringement from press releases and advertising material put out by Curtin. It was added in March 2006[1] by Klauskrauss, who, judging by his user talk page, has a rather fuzzy grasp of copyright concepts and little desire to discuss it. —LX (talk, contribs) 14:15, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Criticism? A report about a day and half of downtime on a computer network hardly seems notable. I propose removal of the section. --Liquidvelvet 20:35, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] this article

says hardly anything about the academic programs at Curtin. which is the core of any uni. look at most other uni entries in Wikipedia. sounds too much like a campus guide than an encyclopaedia entry. Michellecrisp 00:30, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What criteria does this university have for the maturity of its students?

We keep getting infantile vandalism from this university (at least from IP address 134.7.248.130). I'm wondering if these are done by students or by some kindergarten kids who somehow abuse the university's equipment. If these are really students, then I am wondering if the university has any requirements for the maturity of its students. — Sebastian 05:39, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't matter how much vandalism an IP user can do - this has to occur because anybody can vandalise; it's a free website. It does not have any link to the maturity of the students in the university. Plus, does this have any relevance to this article? 134.7.248.130 08:22, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply; you're right, this has no relevance to the article. I hope, however, that everybody who reads this page cares both for Curtin and for Wikipedia, so it is not quite as inappropriate. Before I reply to your other points, let's find an appropriate location. Where else do you propose we should discuss this? I considered User talk:134.7.248.130, but since this is only one of many Curtis addresses to which this discussion applies, I feel it should be discussed in a more general location. How about Wikipedia talk:Vandalism, or would that be too general? — Sebastian 17:03, 19 October 2007 (UTC)