Talk:Curse of Tippecanoe

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Go ahead. I thought it was just Tippecanoe's curse.

There is a MAJOR error in this page...John Tyler did NOT die in office. I assume the author of this page ment Zachary Taylor, as Taylor did die in office and the dates listed are those of Taylor's term in office. Similar names, VERY different people. Very simple research could have prevented this error.

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[edit] Last Sentence

"Dodich also believes that in 2000, it was again an earth sign, and it won't happen again for 600 years, meaning Bush is at the end of the curse."

'It' occurs twice and seems to refer to a different subject each time. I'm not sure what the poster meant, so I can't edit it, but this needs to be rewritten: as it stands it really doesn't make sense and in fact the wording is contradictory to what in context the poster seems to be trying to say. CFLeon 10:17, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Also, the year 2000 has already passed. Did the earth sign appear or not?

[edit] Mark Dodich???

I understand that it is not off-topic to bring in an astrologer's theory in a pretended curse, but the question is: Is Mark Dodich a relevant astrologer, or is he just one more between the thousands that look at the stars for influence in human life? I know he appears a lot in Google, but they're all pages in which he collaborates. So, is he considered a prominent figure in the circle of astrologers? Otherwise I wouldn't put it here (just because Snopes quotes him it doesn't means that Wikipedia has to copy the mention). 200.55.112.47 15:43, 30 August 2006 (UTC) Nahuel

[edit] "last president of the united states"

I can't seem to find a source for this statement outside of wikipedia (not obviously, anyway) and, given recent world events, it seems to me, at least, to be a potential instance of political propaganda/fear-mongering. Given that it doesn't seem too damaging, it seemed reasonable to allow it to stay in the article, at least for the short term, but someone more familiar with wiki policies can feel free to change that. Matthew Brown, posting from 207.171.180.101

I removed it. ~a (user • talk • contribs) 20:31, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Drastic trimming

I drastically trimmed the article [1] for the following reasons:

  • Tenskwatawa was not defeated at Tippecanoe. Tecumseh was.
  • All the info about Regan and Bush has nothing to do with anything. They didn't die in office. Putting that Regan has some surgery and bush almost choked on a pretzel is silly and irrelevant.
  • Assassination attempts of other Presidents also have nothing to do with anything.
  • The astrology stuff is nonsense.

The result is an article that is more tightly focused on the so-called curse, rather than spinning various hypothetical situations.--JW1805 (Talk) 01:22, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

You're misinformed about the Battle of Tippecanoe. Tecumseh was not at that battle; it was Tenskwatawa's defeat. —Kevin 12:14, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2000 election

The other way to interpret the curse is that every president elected in a year divisible by 20 will suffer some life-threatening calamity. So Reagan might not have dispelled the curse. Bad news for the president elected in 2000... Brutannica 22:37, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

How so? Reagon was elected in 1980, which is divisible by 20 (1980 / 20 = 99) Sinsdepth 22:01, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
I wonder if the curse is why Al Gore won't run for President again? MMetro 19:53, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Another way to interpret the curse is that every president elected on the twenty year cycle would die in a "schocking" or uncommon manner. For example the Presidents who died in office caused a shock and Reagan's diagnosis with Alzheimer's disease was uncommon.

[edit] Failed attempts

I removed the line "There was an assasination attempt also made against President George W. Bush In Tbilisi, Georgia on May 10, 2005, when a grenade thrown at the President failed to go off.". I feel there is a fundamental difference between a failed assassination attempt where the target was wounded, and one where s/he was not; as such, Reagan belongs on the list, Bush currently does not. We have no idea how many countless plots have failed (and there are probably a few which have succeeded that we've missed out on, too). Instead, I'd support a page, "List of failed assassination attempts", or something along those lines, which would include, for example, the two failed attempts on Ford's life, etc. samwaltz 01:52, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

IIRC, there also were failed attempts on the lives of Theodore Roosevelt and Harry Truman. 71.8.222.86 22:09, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reagen breakign Curse

Well from what I learned on a tour in D.C. i think this should be added.

Well apparently all the other presiedents when they were, I think, innaugurated they faced East, but when Reage did it he faced West becasue he said "he didn't want to have his back facing the majority of his coutnry" and this supposively broke the curse. Should it be added? I have no sources because, as I said, I learned it on a bus tour in DC and I may have the facts a bit wrong, but I think it's better then just saying "The pattern ended with Reagen." This addds a little more to the legend and I think it sohuld be added as it IS part of the legend.

Sounds rediculous. Maybe if you find a source, but we can't really know until Bush dies or leaves office. Be sure to sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~). Reywas92TalkReview me 02:21, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Objectivity

The use of the word "ridiculous" is a personal slant on the information presenteed in this article. It should be removed in order to let the reader make his own judgements. However, the phrase "most Americans believe that this is" or "most believe..." etc. could be put in the artical. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.160.108.190 (talk) 17:56, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

I changed it to give the reader an impartial view. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.160.108.190 (talk • contribs) 18:03, 10 December 2007 (UTC)