Talk:Curmudgeon

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Curmudgeon band = self promotion?

[edit] Curmudgeon Noun

Curmudgeon as a personal descriptive is (presumably) the basis for the album name. As such I think it would be wise to relabel this page Curmudgeon (album) rather than have a 1/2 line blurb about what a curmudgeon actually is. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by RSido (talk • contribs) 04:02, 28 January 2007 (UTC).

-- Agreed. The English Language meaning of the word should certainly come up before a stupid Nirvana song.

-- I don't know about the song/band/album, but it's certainly a secondary meaning of this major English word. There should be a full article not only defining the word "curmudgeon" but giving a history and list of famous and reputed curmudgeons. Also some in fiction. There are books on this, including a popular book "The Portable Curmudgeon" by John Winokur. Curmudgeons tend to be (but not always): grumpy, acid-tongued, stubborn, skeptical, irascible, outspoken, old, old-fashioned, male, blunt and smart. Often they are somewhat by-passed by the powers, trends and society around them, and prefer earlier generations to later. Some are:

Arthur Schopenhauer, H. L. Mencken, Colonel Blimp, Friedrich Nietzsche, George Bernard Shaw, W. C. Fields, Dorothy Parker, Malcolm Muggeridge, Victor Craven-Hodgson, Andy Rooney, Quentin Crisp, Oscar Levant, Commander McBragg, Richard Hayes Smith, Paul Fussell, James Howard Kunstler, and maybe Ebenezer Scrooge (pre-transformation) and Big Daddy in Cat on a Hot Tin Roof. In his later years, the actor Walter Matthau played curmudgeons (e.g., in Grumpy Old Men) and perhaps was one.

MrDroopy 09:02, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Add R. Crumb the comics author/artist to the list of of well-known curmudgeons, something he has achieved by age and cynicicm. He now describes himself as such. (Ref.: R. Crumb & Peter Poplasky, The R. Crumb Handbook, MQ Publications, London, 2005, p. 56.) MrDroopy 02:14, 9 July 2007 (UTC)