Talk:Cultural heritage management
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[edit] The term "Cultural Heritage Management" is redundant, overly vague, and illogical
All heritage, except for genetics, is cultural. Why not Culture Management, or Heritage Management? Is it that we need 3 words to make us feel good? And anyway, how is "Cultural Heritage Management" a clearer term than CRM? Frankly, I read "Cultural Heritage Management" and I have no idea what that means. It looks more vague than CRM to me. Couldn't a library be "Cultural Heritage Management?" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.92.83.171 (talk) 18 August 2007
- The term is cultural heritage to distinguish it from natural heritage i.e. in considering protecting a national park because of its natural environment or because of its anthropogenic resources, and although CRM is often used synonymously with cultural heritage management, CRM is also used in a wider sense of non-heritage, current cultural resources as in, for example, contemporary art. Viv Hamilton 09:44, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
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- Sure Viv, whatever. Except here's the thing: Cultural Resources management is a term WE AMERICAN ARCHAEOLOGISTS created to refer to the protection and preservation of OUR archaeological sites, not sites in England or wherever. It is worded to set it apart, and to contrast it, with Natural Resources Management. How is that different from your explanation of the CHM/NEM issue? The fact that you all have co-opted the CRM term and twisted it into meaninglessness is not our problem, it is yours. You all can fiddle around with Wikipedia all you want, it won't alter reality. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.92.83.171 (talk) 19 August 2007
- The terms cultural heritage and natural heritage are used in UK, Europe and other parts of the world - e.g see UN examples - to distinguish the anthropogenic from the natural resources. There is in some ways a difference between the archaeological sites in the US that as I understand King etc was dealing with, where there are indiginous people still using their sites, and hence a conflation of their current culture with their heritage, (see definition from King on Cultural resource management) and archaeological sites in Europe, which (until we started getting interested in industrial archaeology), were in the main divorced from current use. Anyway, the point of the encyclopaedia is to reflect what is out there - even if you think it is an illogical term, CH is used e.g. in UN conventions, government policy etc, so we need to explain it. CRM is used in both senses in US, UK and rest of world: it is no longer used exclusively in context of archaeology even in the US - your real gripe is not with archaeologists on this side of the pond, but with government, tourism and businesses who adopted CRM in the wider use. As you say, we can't change reality so we need, as the CRM article does, to explain that it can have different meanings, and to provide explanations of them all. Viv Hamilton 08:54, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] How to organize & interrelate heritage topics?
These topics, although interrelated, are not well integrated on Wikipedia. What is their hierarchical relationship and how should they be organized? Often multiple terms are used for the same activity with slight national variations. Should parallel topics exist? Which are the main topics?
UK/Europe | U.S.
- heritage conservation | historic preservation
- heritage management | cultural resources management
- conservation area | historic district
Other
Tous ensemble 16:21, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Removed redirect
I've rewritten this article (which previously redirected to Cultural resources management), including some material which was moved from Cultural Resources Management Viv Hamilton 17:10, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Move request
{{Move|Cultural heritage management}} —Dogears 23:10, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- I support the rename in accordance with Wikipedia capitalisation policy Viv Hamilton 19:20, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
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- Moved --Stemonitis 07:33, 27 May 2007 (UTC)