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[edit] Its purdy

This is beautiful. Marnanel 04:40, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Yes, it is. It is inspired by Modèle:Serie cuisine. On the French Wikipedia, they had this article series box for a long time already. Lupo 07:06, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)
yes it is. I'm not trying to get credit for something I "just" translated, the fact that it was only a translation is written on my user page ^^;
FiP 13:22, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] National Cuisines

Could we try to hash out some sort of guideline for what should be included under "National Cuisines"? Some possibilities:

  1. Ad-hoc; whatever people care to add (ie, no guidelines)
  2. Every existing article on a national cuisine
  3. Just the "Big Four" (as defined by Iron Chef - ok, this is a little silly) : French, Italian, Chinese, Japanese
  4. Get rid of the section altogether, since inclusion or exclusion from it is something of a POV-type choice

Choices 1 and 2 worry me a little bit regarding the size of the template. I guess it isn't a big deal to have tall box like this, but I still have this feeling that this template is a guest on the pages that include it and should behave itself...

And just to muddy the waters, what about cuisines that aren't national but ethnic, like Jewish cuisine and similar? Bunchofgrapes (talk) 15:25, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

4) is the only reasonable choice IMHO. Choices 1 and 2 will eventually even out as editors continue to add their own national cuisines. 3) is too limited. The smaller and more focused the template, the better. Another idea would be to completely get rid of grouping them by location, but by cultures (which would take care of the Jewish cuisine). Sortan 23:55, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
I agreee that 4) is the way to go... I'll del the section.

[edit] TfD debate

This template survived a debate at TfD. The discussion can be found here. -Splashtalk 21:15, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Generic Cuisine Photo

In my opinion It would better serve the encyclopedia to have a picture of the food whos page this template is on, in the template its self. This would follow with the other info boxes that have room for a different picture depending on the artical. I also find it useful to be able to quickly see what this 'thing' (whatever the artical is on) looks like. Comments? -Fcb981 00:02, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I think we should try to avoid including this template in articles that aren't actually linked from it. The idea of having images that can be switched from one article to another is a pretty neat one, but it does have the downside of making that image excessively small. Either that or making the template too large. So many other projects are crapping up their best articles by insisting on truly horrendous monsters of templates that remind one more of editorial cuckoo chicks than helpful navigation aides, needlessly hogging the most prominent part of articles.
For any article that isn't actually linked in the template I think we should instead use a horizontal layout that goes at the bottom of the page. After all, the first impression of the article should be focused on the actual article topic, not a truckload of related links; that's something that should really come after one has read (or even just glanced) through the article itself.
Peter Isotalo 22:51, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Editing this template

Is there anyone willing to make this template foldible or collapsible? I think this template seems useless and takes too much space on an introductory paragraph of every cuisine articles by nationality. ---- Appletrees (talk) 21:43, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

A better solution might be to remove it from articles that aren't actually linked from the template.
Peter Isotalo 00:08, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

I still think the template is useless and prevents each national cuisine from being representative. You suggest I have to remove the tool from irrelevant articles instead of requesting it foldible here, but I don't think i can remove it from Asian cuisine articles at all. If I do so, members of Project Food and Drink would not happy about my opinion and would revert the edit.

One of Project Food and Drink member switched the order on Korean cuisine as (s)he pushed that the template placed first. The template is just a tool to aid, and not to be dominated on articles.

I wish someone to edit the template foldible. If someone want to jump to other cuisine after s/he see an article, the person can click and spread the template and go as s/he wishes. --Appletrees (talk) 07:36, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Maybe you should bring this up at the project talkpage instead. The actions of one member doesn't necessarily represent that of the entire projects.
Peter Isotalo 10:05, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

What if the template were made horizontal as you suggested in the above conversation Peter? I had suggested this awhile ago somewhere else and got slammed by a number of editors, but currently Appletrees and some others are "discussing" on the Korean cuisine article this same issue. By placing it horizontal at the bottom of articles, this gives the ability for users to use the navigability of the template and then allows a "representative" picture of the cuisine at the top right of the article.--Chef Christopher Allen Tanner, CCC 14:04, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

If the choice is between people bickering over which cuisine articles to include it in and going for a horizontal design, I definitely prefer the latter. Using that space for a lead pic relevant to the individual articles is also a very strong argument for the horizontal option.
Peter Isotalo 02:20, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Orange color

Hi, the template looks better, but could the bright brick-orange color perhaps be lightened a bit? Badagnani (talk) 20:32, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

For example, Template:Wines has all pastel colors. Badagnani (talk) 20:33, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

I was just making it the color the other template had, do you think the purple color is better?--Chef Christopher Allen Tanner, CCC (talk) 20:43, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Changed it to pastel blue.--Chef Christopher Allen Tanner, CCC (talk) 03:27, 6 December 2007 (UTC)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIBekr1fGYM&feature=related —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.42.5.96 (talk) 20:49, 3 May 2008 (UTC)