Template talk:Cue sports nav

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This internal Wikipedia page is part of WikiProject Cue sports, a project to improve Wikipedia's coverage of pool, carom billiards and other cue sports. If you would like to participate, you can edit the content page attached to this talk page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.

[edit] Emphasis

Please do not monkey with emphasis in this template unless you are an up-to-speed member of the WP:CUE project. We have a well laid-out understanding of what the important cue sports articles are, and why, and how they related to each other. If anyone has issues with this, they should take it up at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cue sports. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 13:01, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Not sure why you think I reordered things. I just removed the formatting, which you put back in only to remove it yourself. - Dudesleeper · Talk 13:52, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Huh? I didn't say anything about ordering, only about emphasis. And I didn't remove them all, just the ones that were unintentional, due to copy-paste error. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 14:34, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

NB: The general idea is that italics = it's a major resource; bold = this is one of the main actual sports (regulated international competition); both = both, basically - one of the top-level classifications in this articlespace. If there is something counter-intuitive about this, please say so. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 20:30, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Counter-intuitive, no; unnecessary, yes. - Dudesleeper · Talk 00:44, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough; if you don't find it counter-intuitive, then no harm done, right? I've never meant to imply necessity, as in "people will be confused and lost" without the emphasis. But WP:CUE would certainly like to draw attention to resources it thinks will be of value. We're both proud of them, and believe they will be genuinely helpful.  :-) — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 01:29, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm opposed to this extra markup. Navboxen aren't best used as tarted-up WikiProject banners. Without the text at the bottom, which doesn't actually appear on the articles it's transcluded to, the markup is mostly simply wasting bytes. I'd like to suggest this be removed, following Wikipedia's generally successful drive towards the, erm, generic generic navbox. Chris Cunningham 18:22, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hightlights that we need more articles!

This template's dependence on the Categoryspace to have entries at all for orgs, players and events tells us that we need to create overview articles on these topics! — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 22:20, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wondering why...

this template is being included on snooker players' articles. Is there a high demand from users to switch from looking at Jimmy White's article to go and read about Novuss? - Dudesleeper · Talk 12:38, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Until such time as the template forks into more customized game-specific versions this is the only nav we have, and any is better than none. I realize that it is not 100% ideal for all purposes, but at least it is providing resoruce links of value, e.g. the glossary, and giving people a way to get to the "top level" of the more historical/general information without having to do any manual searching or guesswork. I'm rather proud of it actually, at least as a start. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 12:51, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Understood. Wouldn't it also be beneficial to include [[Category:Snooker players]] in the necessary portion of each page? Then the user can browse by nationality, instead of first being directed to English snooker players, Welsh snooker players, etc. - Dudesleeper · Talk 12:56, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

I tried that sort of thing a long time ago and about got my head ripped off. Apparently it's a no-no to redundantly categorize someone like Jimmy White in Category:English snooker players, Category:British snooker players, and Category:Snooker players. An eventual more snooker-specific version of this template, however, would certainly link to the snooker player list article(s) (there are more than one right now, but I suspect they'll merge and have sections, with the World Champs at the top, and the nicknames integrated.) Snookerspace here has quite a few interesting list-style articles that nine-ball, eight-ball, three-cushion, etc., don't, so I would imagine that the first custom fork of this template would be for snooker. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 13:07, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, I don't agree that having this template on players' pages are better than nothing. I would suggest removing it. I think it's clutter, and I don't think this is common for people known for other things either. For a snooker player, the word snooker is usually linked early in the article, and I can't imagine that it would be difficult to find if one want's to know more about the sport. Havardk 17:02, 21 May 2007 (UTC)