User talk:Cuddy Wifter

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Hi, I notice no-one's thought to give you the offical welcome yet!

Welcome!

Hello, Cuddy Wifter, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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[edit] Laverton, Victoria

The picture you have removed from "Laverton, Victoria" page, featuring a vehicle prevalent in the Laverton area holds a marked similarity to the "Toorak Tractor" image featured on the "Toorak, Victoria" page which you have contributed to in the past. I cannot see why a "Toorak Tractor" image should be allowed to remain while a picture of a vehicle which is iconic of the Laverton area must be removed. Furthermore, I question your reasoning as to why you have cited your edit of this page as a removal of vandalism.

Laverton 02:26, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bruthen, Victoria

I am sorry about that. I was unfamiliar with that policy and the rules that go with it. That'll teach me to not read things. My bad. tv316 05:08, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Horse racing distances

I have noticed that you have inserted a comma into the race distance in a couple of horse racing articles, which I have reverted. The general convention in Australian racing media and publications is not to insert the comma when giving the distance of a race. The Manuel of Style states: Very large numbers may be divided up by commas every three places. Regards - Cuddy Wifter 05:23, 19 March 2006 (UTC)


Wikipedia isn't a racing publication. In my opinion it should have internal consistency, but I'm not interested in racing so I probably won't visit the page again. ReeseM 23:59, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Is Prosper Trebeck 'from Victoria'?

Hi Cuddy. I've started a discussion on this here...

Category_talk:People_from_Victoria

I just wasn't certain if this category applies or if we should apply other categories for NSW and West Bengal.

Thought you might have an opinion.

Factoid Killer 20:47, 22 March 2006 (UTC)


I came across the article in a google search for uncategorised "Victoria, Australia" articles. On the basis of the information in the article I thought Category:People from Victoria was one appropriate category. Can you suggest other categories which are more appropriate? Does Wikipedia have any guidelines on "People from or of place" which would apply in this case? - Cuddy Wifter 03:42, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Template:MelbSuburbBox2/Water

That looks right, thanks. Just to note, I think I've found something in the template system new that might make the output HTML more semantically correct, so I'm going to try that now. --Evan C (Talk) 09:04, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tulloch

I wrote that piece on R & S some time ago, so i guess i am the copyright holder (dark horse 09:38, 30 March 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Australian Expatriate cats

Hello Cuddy Wifter. Regarding your recent Aus expat cat placements, I have reverted some of them because "expatriate" is generally taken to mean "residing in a foreign country". I believe it is accurate to say that when a person returns to live in their home country they are no longer considered an expatriate. I also do not believe people who have died are considered expatriates any longer. Cheers. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 08:37, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. The definition above was straight from the dictionary, but this is Wikipedia's: "An expatriate (in abbreviated form expat) is someone temporarily or permanently residing in a country and culture other than that of their upbringing and/or legal residence." I honestly do not see how people who have returned home or have died fit within that. Most notable Australians have lived overseas at one point. And so I think it is very confusing and misleading to label every Australian who has at one time in their life lived overseas as an expat. Further, I don't see the relevance of the British cats. Two mistakes dont make a right. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 03:04, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
I make the distinction based on what the word ACTUALLY means and what most people understand it to mean. I make a further distinction based on the fact that Australians are famous for spending time living overseas and to include all of them would render the category meaningless, bogged down and entirely unruly. I do not make a distinction between former and current footballers because a. there are a hell of a lot less of them and b. it is a career.
I merely came here to pay you the courtesy of informing you why I had reverted some of your edits. I have no interest in arguing with you. You can do whatever you want but I will remove people who are incorrectly categorised. Thankyou. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 05:12, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] May 25 2006: Greece vs Australia friendly

Do you suppose Wikipedians would buy the tickets and go?
It would be a great social activity for us, and we would try to get press accreditation as well.

--Bronwyn Gannan 07:46, 25 April 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Racing

I saw your note on my user page. Thanks. I guess this is about "Category: Racehoreses bred in the United States". This is a reasonably important category. Someone suggested it be merged with "Category: American racehorses". I guess this OK too. I will keep an eye on it to see that they don't come up with an unworkable solution. Wallie 08:22, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

i have commented as well. I think that it would be good to go much further than this and have some discussion on horseracing in general. Even look at starting a portal. I think all the information could be much better presented. dark horse 05:01, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

further to that i think that it would be a good idea to support a wikiproject on thoroughbred horseracing as suggested by Galopin. considering the size and limited contributors possibly seperate projects for Europe, US and AUS. These could then be merged once more complete. There is Wikipedia:WikiProject_Thoroughbred_racing which has had next to nothing done to it and seems USA focused. You may have seen me working through the G1 winners in australia (slowly) my idea is to complete the winners of all blacktype races and then complete profiles for all hall of fame horses (firstly) in the style of the Tulloch article. Added to this i want to develop a standard for summaries, race records etc. i quite like the idea of info boxes like they have for football (soccer) players. A summary including info on basic breeding, colour, year foaled, owner, trainer, race record, prizemoney, major wins, awards, sire stats and a photo would look good. Let me know what you think (dark horse 04:11, 4 July 2006 (UTC))

got your message about the CAPS - an oversight by myself. will work towards fixing these. am working on a few recruits with great australian racing knowledge, hopefully to get this whole project firing. (dark horse 05:53, 6 July 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Melbourne Meetup

Hi Just looking over the Melbourne Meetup pages etc, and I was just wondering, if u get many Under 18's?

Thanks! --Deon555|talk 09:40, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Awesome thanks for that ;) --Deon555|talk 00:59, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

You don't seem to be aware of it but Ted Wilkes has been banned from editing Wikipedia. He was banned in mid March for 1 year by the Arbitration Committee. FearÉIREANN\(caint) 00:40, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thoroughbred racing

G'day. You are right, if Wikipedia is to have articles on the subject of horseracing around the world, then there needs to be some consistency and co-ordination. I have no special interest, I started the Harry Wragg article under "Harry". My comment about "race-ist" was supposed to be facetiuos. Guy 09:54, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


Organizing Thoroughbred racing into a Wikipedia project is a great idea. Regretfully, for now I am tied up with other duties but ASAP will get back to Wikipedia and would then be glad to help out in any way possible. Handicapper

I will try to help out with the Thoroughbred racing project but can't personally claim to be a real expert. My dad trains racehorses for a living (I have resisted writing an article about him; I don't think he is particularly well known) but he has a wealth of knowledge and if I could only persuade him to help out I'm sure he would be useful. --Wikipediatastic 15:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Xcellent

The guy who put this up for deletion is a complete... can't think of the word, yes ... balloon. By the way I used to work in South Yarra at the ANZ data centre. Is it still there? Wallie 20:17, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

The deletion nom was withdrawn, and the Afd closed off by User:Kimchi.sg. Cheers. Moriori 23:57, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thoroughbred horse Infobox template

Galopin has generously volunteered to help the Wikipedia:WikiProject Thoroughbred racing create an Infobox and has done a great job. Take a look at his talk page (User talk:Galopin#Template tests) for the two choices for the bottom box and those horses where I set up their box today using sample 1. Handicapper 18:05, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

The Worker's Barnstar
For your work in organising and improving Melbourne and Australian related articles. Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 04:28, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stonnington

A climate is a pattern of weather distinct to a particular region. A suburban municipality doesn't have a climate distinct from the rest of the city of which it is a part. The table I deleted gave figures for Melbourne as a whole, not for Stonnington. Adam 07:01, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Nevertheless they are not figures for Stonnington, and of course no such figures exist. It is absurd to discuss the "climate" of a small area of suburbia as though it was a climatic region distinct from the city as a whole. Adam 07:17, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Makybe Diva

It appears the same editor is using multiple ip addresses to edit the article and present their point of view. If it persists I'll enable semi-protection. I've fired them a warning on inserting POV edits for now. -- Longhair\talk 02:02, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

I've sent the anonymous user another warning, with mention of a block if edits of this type continue to occur. I'm also watchlisting the article. I'm currently busy in real life at the moment, but feel free to continue posting to my talk page if these edits continue. I'm still checking into Wikipedia from time to time and am happy to assist where I can as time permits. -- Longhair\talk 01:56, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm still watching the article, and just gave the ip a warning. -- Longhair\talk 04:40, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Melbourne meetup in planning

Hello, you've indicated that you're interested in future Meetups in Melbourne on this list, so I'm giving you this message to remind you that Melbounre meetup number four is currently in planning. If you haven't already, please go to Wikipedia:Meetup/Melbourne to suggest possible dates, times and locations. Thanks --Michael Billington (talk • contribs) 02:44, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Melbourne meetup

Greetings, person who is listed as being interested in future meetups in Melbourne. The fourth meetup will be held on 18 December, at Lower House in Fed Square (in the Alfred Deaking building, Flinders Street end near the Atrium: map), starting from 7pm. We don't currently have a separate location for discussion beforehand, but there'll be plenty of time to talk wiki over dinner. --bainer (talk) 14:50, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Elvstroem

Cuddy, why did you delete what I said about Haradasun? It was TOTALLY objective as the colt HAS only won a listed race and IS one of the favourites for the Cox Plate.--The judge and jury 10:10, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fifth Melbourne meetup

The fifth meetup of Melbourne Wikipedians is being planned as a breakfast meeting in the city with Jimbo Wales (at a venue to be arranged) on Friday, 27 April 2007.

Jimbo has proposed breakfast as the one real window of opportunity during his tightly scheduled stay in Melbourne. Tbe precise time has to be sorted out with Jimbo, but the arrangements for the equivalent Adelaide meetup a few days before may give a good idea.

Feel free to edit the relevant page in any way that might be helpful. I feel like a bit of an interloper, not having attended previous meetups. If there's anything you can do to help, I'll be grateful. Please think about whether you'll be able to make it, assuming the arrangements are similar to those Adelaide is adopting (i.e. a block of time with people being fairly free to arrive when it suits them). Some indication on the page of your possible participation would be really helpful. Metamagician3000 06:10, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chipping Norton Stakes

Hi, I've noticed that you're one of WP's foremost contributors to Australian thoroughbred racing, so I thought I might ask you directly (since I'm not sure if a question on the article's talk page would have gained any attention). The article on the Chipping Norton Stakes makes no mention of this, but if I remember correctly the race was run at Caulfield at least once in the 1990s. Could you tell me why and how long that went? Malc82 00:13, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response. Only in case you’re interested, I think I know what the problem was. What I remembered was a February 1997 (British) Racing Post (that I don’t have anymore), where the Chipping Norton result must have been printed under the header “Caulfield”, along with the Blue Diamond result from the same day. But according to various sources I just found on the net, the 1997 Chipping were indeed run at WF, the Racing Post obviously just printed it wrong. The unusual Sydney to Melbourne shift was exactly what got me wondering. Thanks again. Malc82 12:44, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Queensland meetups

I just wondered if you knew if any Queensland meetups have ever happened ? From looking at the meetups page, it seems one was planned in Brisbane but may have not occurred.Boylo 23:31, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Melbourne meetup 6

Thanks for notification of the meetup and I have included my status (under Apologies) on the page.
— Peter McGinley 04:35, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Now see Wikipedia:Meetup/Melbourne 7 for further planning. Metamagician3000 04:36, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Strapper ?

I've come across the term "strapper" in at least one Wikipedia Australian horse article and at other places such as Living Legends bio for Paris Lane which says "Melissa Jackson, his strapper, remembers ...." Can you tell me what a "strapper" is? Thanx Handicapper 19:41, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Strapper, ;-). Malc82 20:45, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sortable Tables

Thanks for converting the Race Results tables for Poseidon to sortable tables. Is there a template for these anywhere? I am just working on the race results tables for my next project (Amounis), and it makes sense for them to be sortable from the start. Thanks MagicFlute1983 06:19, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Quarter horse racehorses

Hey, thanks for catching some of those Quarter horses as racehorses, but not ALL of them are racehorses. Some are halter or western pleasure or cutting horses, so I'm going to go through and remove the category on the ones that aren't racehorses. Thanks! Ealdgyth | Talk 02:04, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

On the categories, I can defintely see the point and need to prune down Category:Famous horses. I agree, Category:Quarterhorse racehorses doesn't fit all the QH's, but I'm thinking of doing pages on the significant Paint Horses too, so maybe we should stick with something like Category:Cutting horses Category:Rodeo horses Category:Show horses? That way famous Arabian show horses could go in the show horse category also, etc. etc. The only problem I see is we still have a few that won't fit into those categories, maybe need a Category:Broodmares and Category:Stallions to cover those who made their name in the breeding shed instead of outside it. Of course that still leaves a few like Traveller, who was General Robert E. Lee's mount in the American Civil War, or Buchephalus. I'll admit I'm still learning how to work Wikipedia, so I haven't felt able to tackle the lack of suitable categories for the QH articles I'm working on. And for that matter, shouldn't it be Category:Quarter horse racehorses? No clue how to change that! And wow, hitting preview shows me that there IS a category for show horses... (slaps forehead)! Ealdgyth | Talk 22:50, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your list

Hi,

Just run down your racing list, you have mapped out a lot of work for yourself!

You might like to add Pat Hyland, as both a successful jockey and a trainer. Also Jim Moloney, who trained Vain.

Anyway good luck with it!

--Michael Johnson 06:03, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

The Working Man's Barnstar
For your tireless work in cleaning up the category "Famous horses" and resolving problems for WikiProject Thoroughbred racing. Malc82 23:41, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD

Please see also the related Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2000 AD glossary, nominated for deletion by the same person as part of their anti-glossary spree. And also the Village Pump discussion which spawned all of this, at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Glossaries, which needs further community input. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 09:32, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Anamato

Hi! I noticed your interest in horse racing. Concerning the above: Are there references for this article? Is the horse notable? Any more improvements to the article would be appreciated. --Stormbay 21:54, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Video - Precisionist

I just found this Video at YouTube. If you haven't seen it, take a look. It is the funniest finishing line incident I have ever seen. Handicapper 16:15, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Melbourne-related categories

Hi Cuddy Wifter. With the article above, wouldn't this be better in project space rather than in article space. I assume it was created for collaboration purposes rather than as an article. I was going to move it myself but I thought I should check with you first. Cheers, Mattinbgn\ talk 22:53, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

That is exactly what I mean. It is a great idea but at the moment without having the WikiProject prefix at the start of the page name it could be seen as an article rather than a collaboration tool. I will move it shortly. Cheers, Mattinbgn\ talk 23:51, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Welcome

Hi Cuddy, I'm trying to contact you (and am hopeless at it) but maybe this will work. I'm a 76 year old retired racing journalist, hence my unquenchable interest in that subject. Thanks for your welcome message. I need help setting up stuff and perhaps you could help me? My email address is mmaund@bigpond.net.au

Ron. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Isoronical (talk • contribs)

[edit] User:Isoronical

You have a keen interest in horse racing articles. I was wondering if you could give this new user a hand with some copyediting. He's producing article's on notable racehorses which may need some cleanup but he appears to have become confused when I added a cleanup template to one of his recent creations (see recent message above). -- Longhair\talk 23:33, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

An awesome contributor, just one used to writing for public consumption (ex journalist) rather than an encyclopedia. I'm sure there's plenty of good value that lies ahead... I'll help out where I can but I've gotta admit the world of horse racing shall remain a mystery to me. Interested, yes, but I'm lacking of any knowledge whatsoever in this field. -- Longhair\talk 07:46, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Longhair, I just came across this page and your kind comments. I'm afraid my style of writing stretches back to the early 1950s and includes both typewritten and over-the-telephone stories from the racecourses. I am inclined to be a bit colourful (colorful for USA!) and will have to watch this! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Isoronical (talk • contribs) 05:49, 19 October 2007 (UTC) Isoronical 20:25, 19 October 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Isoronical (talk • contribs)

[edit] Melbourne Meetup

Wikimedia Melbourne Meetup

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Hello! The Melburnians are having another meet-up! Please consult this page if you are interested to participate in the discussion! Thanks! Phgao 03:23, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Flemington Race course

I have undid you taking out "possible grand prix track" because i had said it was possible not certain. Look at the reference! Thankyou Pattav2 02:32, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

I read the reference. It is newspaper speculation. Quote from the news article: A spokesman for the Victorian Racing Club slammed the idea as fanciful, "not even worth considering". Speculation has no place in an encyclopedia article, even when it appears in a newspaper. Cuddy Wifter 03:31, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

Greetings Mr Cuddy Wifter. It was very nice to meet you today. I uploaded some images and added a few to the meetup page, here. All the best, Sarah 14:59, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

P.S. Per your userpage, I look forward to seeing your autobiography hit the shelves at a bookstore near me. :) Sarah 15:02, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] VRC St Leger Stakes

I added this to the list of races on the Flemington Racecourse page. However, I have no idea what the third column is all about and thought you might be able to fill in the blank and perhaps add a footnote with the various definitions. Thanx. Handicapper (talk) 19:07, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

For fixing that link in the Wikiproject talk page...you don't know how many times I wrote it correctly only to go back and not put (horse) on the rewrite. --SmashvilleBONK! 21:30, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tulloch (horse)

The article has been moved now. I did it the incorrect way of copying-and-pasting and making the old page a redirect, but I'll get an admin to fix it tomorrow. As for the link fixes you requested, I don't see anything (in What links here) other than a redirect, which is fine to be left as-is. Am I missing something? - Dudesleeper / Talk 04:51, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Gotcha now, regarding the links to the disambiguation page. Wikipedia Cleaner should take care of that. I'll put it on the agenda for tomorrow. - Dudesleeper / Talk 05:03, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Done. I didn't, however, correct the links on talk pages since it seemed a bit of a waste of time. - Dudesleeper / Talk 13:15, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thoroughbred links

Thank you for the links you posted on the Thoroughbred talk page - they were extremely useful...just what I needed for expanding the short sections! The article has been a team effort over the past several weeks, and your links were one of the last pieces in bringing everything together before we begin the push for GA. Thanks again! Dana boomer (talk) 01:56, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WMA Meeting

Hi Cuddy Wifter. I'm not sure if you're on the Wikimedia Australia mailing list or not so I thought I'd let you know that we're planning a WMA meetup in April at the Computerbank. The details are here on Meta. Cheers, Sarah 00:57, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Next Melb meetup = Wikimedia Australia incorporation meeting

Wikimedia Melbourne Meetup

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Hope you can make it :) cheers --pfctdayelise (talk) 09:57, 8 March 2008 (UTC)