User talk:CSI LA

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[edit] Welcome

Welcome!

Hello, CSI LA, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question and then place {{helpme}} after the question on your talk page. Again, welcome! 

I see from your contributions that you have an interest in Scientology. You might want to consider joining WikiProject Scientology, a project to coordinate and improve the development of Scientology-related articles. It also has a useful public watchlist, which lists all of Wikipedia's Scientology-related articles and allows you to monitor recent changes to them. -- ChrisO 18:43, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I finally did, thank you! CSI LA 02:36, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Scientology

This is a controversial topic, which may be under dispute. Please read the talk page and discuss substantial changes there before making them. Thank you. SheffieldSteel 02:56, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

I did read the talk page for the last hours and followed the ridiculous back and forth. All sources are in there now and the appropriate size has been kept. In terms of consensus - per talk page - I could even delete the whole section. CSI LA 03:01, 14 April 2007 (

[edit] Your opinion.

You may want to post your opinion on the Admin page WP:ANI#Misou_inappropriate_violations Lsi john 03:14, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. CSI LA 03:22, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

You're most certainly welcome. Lsi john 03:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] sock block

You have been indefinitely blocked from editing in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for confirmed block evasion using sockpuppets (see Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/COFS). If you believe this block is unjustified you may contest this block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below. ··coelacan 21:37, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

This blocked user (block log | autoblocks | rangeblocks | unblock | contribs | deleted contribs) has asked to be unblocked, but an administrator has reviewed and declined this request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy). Do not remove this unblock request while you are blocked.

Request reason: "Well, I am simply not the same person as COFS. What ever you did must have therefore been faulty or misled."

Decline reason: "It was confirmed by checkuser. Denied. — IrishGuy talk 21:52, 29 April 2007 (UTC)"

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Request reason: "This is obviously not correct. What's the appeal procedure?"

Decline reason: "Please e-mail the checkuser responsible. There is not much those without Checkuser priveleges can do.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:00, 29 April 2007 (UTC)"

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Ok, I did that. The appeal procedure is pending and I won't by any means give up. CSI LA 23:51, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

This blocked user (block log | autoblocks | rangeblocks | unblock | contribs | deleted contribs) has asked to be unblocked, but an administrator has reviewed and declined this request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy). Do not remove this unblock request while you are blocked.

Request reason: "there is a debate on the rightfulness of this block ongoing with the responsible checkuser on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/COFS and I request to be unblocked for that page"

Decline reason: "No indication that the above admins and Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/COFS were wrong in classifying you as a sock. If you have no other socks, you do not need to edit that discussion. Talk page protected for unblock abuse. — Sandstein 05:46, 1 May 2007 (UTC)"

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[edit] Open debate

Well, one thing's for sure no matter who you are -- you persist in demanding treatment more favorable than that you are willing to give to others. At Talk:L. Ron Hubbard you complained about what you called "false quotes" -- quotes that a previous editor had attributed to a specified edition of a particular Hubbard-authored text, which you failed to locate in an edition of that text, not necessarily the same edition, and which you therefore used as the basis for an accusation of bad faith. "Obviously - to follow the purpose of slandering Hubbard - the quote had to be falsified to fit the bill."[1]
Now, not everyone would think of the possibility that perhaps between your edition and the edition that was specified in the article, the text was different and no one had lied and no one had falsified anything. You were given the benefit of the doubt and you were given my own personal direct guarantee that in my edition of the book, the quotes in question do appear in the form that you had called "falsified".[2] But what did you do when you had received my word on that matter (in a politeness that you had certainly not earned by your rush to accuse?) You continued to refer to the quotes in question as "a fake and slander attack on Hubbard" and insisted "the real quotes are not containing such statements"[3] and when pressed on it you turned it into a scurrilous personal attack: "What is still unexplained is why you want to smear L. Ron Hubbard with altered quotes."[4] You had already received my personal word that the quotes were not altered; you disregarded that word and called me a liar. You had the ISBNs of the two editions that contained the quotes; you could have tracked down the books and verified for yourself. But you instead decided to accuse me of using "altered quotes".
And now the evidence shows "CSI LA" to be nothing more than the sockpuppet of COFS, and "CSI LA" is protesting 'it doesn't matter what the evidence says, you should believe I'm not a sockpuppet because I say I'm not!' You're asking for a pretty sizable benefit of the doubt; why on earth do you think you deserve that benefit of the doubt, when you were perfectly all right with calling someone a liar based on your own failure to check the evidence? Even in the unlikely scenario where you are not COFS you are still no more than reaping the rewards of your own behavior. -- Antaeus Feldspar 16:05, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, that I can't talk to you right now. Patience, please. CSI LA 02:38, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your e-mail

Hallo Sandstein,

I just found your page protection of my user page here:

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=User_talk:CSI_LA&redirect=no

I could thank you for that - protecting me from further attacks - but it is also extremely annoying at the same time. I have been unrightfully blocked and so have about 1,000 people using the same proxy than I do, as the block was not only on my user name but also on the proxy I am using (with no reason stated). Your additional "protection" now completely kicks me out of the system and I think that violates Freedom of Speech and Fair Justice (which is inacceptable for a non-profit organization like the Wikipedia foundation). I have not violated the rules but get harmed, invalidated and attacked.

Please re-consider.

Thank you. <redacted> (CSI LA) Email: <redacted>

PS: Wir können wir uns auch in deutsch unterhalten.

You may well have been blocked in error, I've not ruled this out. However, the person you need to convince is the checkuser operator, Jpgordon (talk · contribs), not me. Ultimately, if you fail to convince the checkuser operator, you may appeal to the arbitration committee by e-mail (see procedure). Note, please, that Wikipedia is a private organisation, which means that the principle of free speech and legal rules of procedural fairness do not apply to it (it would be unworkable otherwise). I'll disregard any further communication per e-mail. Sandstein 18:20, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] block reduced

I have reduced your block, as you have not yet shown a sustained pattern of abuse. Since you are known to be editing alongside other editors, you must not use these accounts for vote-stacking, circumventing 3RR (or other gaming), or over-representing consensus (read WP:SOCK for the details). For your convenience here are links to your block log, and the expiration of your current block. ··coelacan 18:22, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] email

From: CSI LA

To: Coelacan

Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:09:18 GMT

Subject: Wikipedia e-mail

Hi, I saw you blocked me. I am not that familiar with Wikipedia policy but one thing I know for sure: I am NOT COFS. COFS is female, I am male, to start with. I have never edited under a different Wikipedia name. I am a staff of the Church of Scientology, COFS is not. What else you need to know? Ah, Churches of Scientology are using a filter to log onto the Internet (ws.churchofscientology.org). You just blocked a shared IP for about 1,000 people. I don't know how COFS accesses the internet but I got to know her a two days ago she said she would go in through a SSL or VPN line or something as she is at a wireless notebook. So, how can we solve this? Sincerely, CSI LA

Hi CSI LA. Sorry I guess I don't check my email often enough. I'm posting your email here so that other users can understand your side of the story regarding the Church of Scientology proxy. As noted, your block is already reduced and will expire, so this is just for future reference. ··coelacan 06:47, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Still around?

Please note this one here. You are mentioned. COFS 22:27, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article for deletion

Psychiatric abuse is slated for deletion. Please read the article and vote on whether to keep it if you are so inclined.S. M. Sullivan 19:51, 29 September 2007 (UTC)