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[edit] Paula Creamer to B-class?

I've done some work on the Paula Creamer article and feel that it deserves an upgrade, but Grovermj, the leader of the Golf WikiProject, is apparently on a school break. You work on more LPGA bios than anyone else here, so could you please take a look at it and tell me if it's ready for a B rating among Golf articles, and if not, what it needs? Thanks. Giants2008 (talk) 14:56, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice. I'll work on the things you pointed out and get back to you. While working on the article I found a problem with one of the templates. For more details please read the following message. Giants2008 (talk) 16:56, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
After several days of editing, the article looks a lot better. Here's what I did:
  • I more than doubled the number of references. A couple of statements that were false or unverifiable were removed.
  • The dashes should be fine now. I also made a few grammar changes to the article. I won't guarantee that I caught everything, though.
  • Several unreliable websites were removed. All links now look good to me.
  • She's no longer "cruising" "with ease" (especially not with her showing this week). As for the other statement, I reworded it to: "After her strong first-year performance, Creamer's 2006 season was not as successful." Hopefully that works better.
  • I moved the two sections today. I agree with you that they are a better fit there.
When you finish updating pages following the final round today, please let me know if it's good enough for B-class now. Giants2008 (talk) 19:36, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Success! I took the article to WikiProject Biography/Assessment, and within 20 minutes got an upgrade to B-Class. Thanks again for the help! Giants2008 (talk) 15:16, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] U.S. Solheim Cup template

The template for the 2007 U.S. Solheim Cup team has an omission. It should be stated that Beth Daniel was the assistant captain, but the template doesn't indicate that, unlike the European template. You would think the American team had 13 players, when we both know that isn't true. Once the information is added, the template will gain an extra line, possibly messing up the formatting. I am still relatively new here, and am unsure of myself when it comes to formatting issues. Could you please give me a hand with this one? Giants2008 (talk) 17:07, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

After giving it some thought, I now think the assistant captains shouldn't be in either the U.S. or European templates. The Ryder Cup templates don't mention assistants, and the articles don't either. The only information about team Europe's assistant that I found said she was announced by the captain. It doesn't say that she was named by Helen Alfredsson.[1] This article on the American team is also unclear.[2] Since you seem to be the leading authority on women's golf here, I'll let you make the final call. Giants2008 (talk) 23:38, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for taking care of the European template. After I noticed your change, I removed Daniel from the American template myself. They are consistent with the Ryder Cup templates now, which is how it should be. With this issue taken care of, I will now get back to my other work. Giants2008 (talk) 19:22, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Edits

Thank you. I will remember to list what kind of edits I am making in the future.Koollatter (talk) 5:11, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Category confusion

What is the purpose of Category:Female golfers? At first glance, it seems like it should be for female golfers who aren't/weren't members of a major tour. This has recently been added to Paula Creamer and Annika Sörenstam, and a couple other LPGA golfers already had it. The user who added them was the same one who added Category:LPGA Tour golfers to Michelle Wie. Should this category be added to all other female golfers, or are these good-faith edits gone wrong? (P.S. - Good luck fighting the Australian vandals. I'll watch for suspicious edits as well.) Giants2008 (talk) 17:23, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Changes to golf tournament names

Yes, the changes are quite irritating. I hadn't noticed the LPGA changes, but this user (or users) have been changing Ladies European Tour names for almost a year now, on and off. Look at the page history :-) The IP address changes frequently, but they all seem to come from Australia. It started last June 1, right when Golf Punk magazine became the title sponsor for one of the events (timing may have been a coincidence). Most of the time the sponsors are more-or-less correct, but these full names go well beyond even what the ladieseuropeantour.com schedule has. They have also changed the external schedule link on the LET page to a Japanese-language LPGA of Japan schedule (this past february) and xtube.com (just recently). I also recall changes to the Evian Masters page, but I had not noticed these IPs changing other articles recently, but obviously they have. I'm really not sure what can be done, especially since the IP changes so much (and between entirely different network blocks too). The name-changers have never once discussed anything on a talk page, as far as I've seen. The name changes on the LET page have been nearly identical every time. Very odd situation. Carl Lindberg (talk) 19:19, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Ah interesting, I hadn't seen that the LPGA changes started even earlier than the LET ones (though they are more persistent on the latter). I was never sure if it was really vandalism... at one point they changed the LET schedule link to the Japanese-language LPGA of Japan schedule... at that point I was wondering if this was a non-English speaker. Other changes like using formal names for players though were also odd... and the recent linking to xtube.com pretty much shows that it was vandalism. It is still pretty odd, and I'm not sure there is much that can be done except continue to revert. Maybe short-term semiprotection on days they are active; these articles usually don't need to change that often. Thanks for the help though ;-) Carl Lindberg (talk) 16:17, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Is this a good addition?

I have another question for you: Should this incident be added to the relevant biographies?[3] This was not added at the time, but the articles were smaller back then. I'm concerned about this both ways. There are no controversial moments in Creamer's article, and Sorenstam's only controversy is her PGA Tour appearance, which is unreferenced with the exception of Vijay's comments. At the same time, I don't want to put undue weight on this. I trust your opinion, so your thoughts would be appreciated. Giants2008 (talk) 01:50, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Once again, thanks for your guidance. The major problem in my eyes is that this doesn't seem to fit anywhere. I don't believe a Criticism section should be added for one incident. In related articles, I've only seen a similar section for Michelle Wie, a player who has had numerous controversies and provokes strong opinions. My plan was to add a sentence or two at the end of the 2005 season, mentioning how Creamer wanted to knock off Annika, but this may not flow that well either. In the end, it looks like WP:UNDUE applies here. Giants2008 (talk) 14:20, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dollar amounts for Wie Ladies German Open

Crunch, you entered the dollar amount 11,274 for Wie's winnings (8750 euro) I then entered the correct amount and proved a link for how it was calculated ie 13,601 as at that exchange rate on that day. link reference: http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=8750+euro+in+dollars&meta=

You then proceeded to change my entry to a new figure 12,156 Where did you get either of these figures ie 11,274 and 12,156 My figures are correct. Please undo your latest entry. --Stanley delaney2 (talk) 18:06, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Crunch for that. Just to let you know, the figure I quoted ie 13601 was from the exchange rate the day the money was won (probably most accurate to use), but your new figure 13563 is close enough, so I'm happy enough to leave it at that. Thanks for your speedy response. --Stanley delaney2 (talk) 00:47, 4 June 2008 (UTC)