Talk:Crustacean

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Added ==Geological history== text from an article I originally wrote in 1998 and published on the Web.

Dlloyd 20:57, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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I have re-written the geological history section, so the copyright notice above no longer applies. --Stemonitis 05:49, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Move to Crustacea

Since all the other higher taxa use the scientific name (Malacostraca, Remipedia) rather than the adjective (malacostracan, remipede), I suggest that crustacean be moved to Crustacea, for consistency. Stemonitis 12:08, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Discussion
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was

  • Support, for the reasons noted above Stemonitis 12:08, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Oppose, use common names for animals - malacostracan etc are not common names, crustacean is. Warofdreams 12:55, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Oppose, this is a pretty clearcut case of using the name most common among all English speakers, not just scientists. Now if "crustacean" were an imprecise term not 100% identical with "Crustacea", there would be more of a case. Stan 13:52, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Support. The word crustacean should forward to the 'Crustacea' page, but as far as an official title, Crustacea seems most appropriate. Regardless, we should have an overall policy for high-level taxonomic groups with common names. For example, would 'vertebrate' or 'Vertebrata' be appropriate? Iancrose 00:36, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it to be moved. violet/riga (t) 21:52, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

I think the overall policy for high-level taxonomic groups should be to use common names whenever possible, even when the common name may have meanings not denoted by the scientific name (e.g. loosely referring to spiders as "insects"). A-giau 05:05, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Referring to spiders as insects is not "loose"; it's just plain wrong. I don't care how many books do it — it's wrong. Anyway, the title here was fixed long ago. --Stemonitis 09:16, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
100% agree with Stemonitis. "Maybe we should also start loosely referring to mammals as frogs." This is an encyclopedia. You want to teach people about real stuff, not urban myths... Lycaon 09:43, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Support."Crustacean," however, is a common word. It would be helpful if the page redirected from "crustacean," especially for those who aren't familiar with the scientific name. As long as it redirects from "crustacean," moving to Crustacea is fine with me.Crustaceanguy 21:52, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

  • Support for consistency. -- Lycaon 22:58, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Note: This poll ended years ago. You may want to start a new move request (although I doubt it would succeed), but there is absolutely no point in voting here. --Stemonitis 23:38, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Page Layout Problem in Firefox

Would someone report this to someone who does something with the basic Wikipedia layout coding (a mysterious individual perhaps hanging out with the Mahdi).

In OSX Firefox 2 (at least), the "Edit" links for each section are appearing all together in a line, superimposed over the text in the "Geological History" section.

This is something which I've seen occurring in other articles and is probably related to right-hand column items being longer that the section where the code for them appears. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.6.228.109 (talk) 08:57, 6 February 2007 (UTC).

The problem also appears in other browsers, and is quite widespread where a number of images line up down the right hand side. I have added a table around them all, which solves the problem, but will make the article harder to edit for anyone unfamiliar with Wiki-markup — the real text now begins rather later in the edit window. --Stemonitis 10:01, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nauplius

"Despite their diversity of form, crustaceans are united by the special larval form known as the nauplius." Are there any exceptions to this? Do terrestrial crustaceans, such as woodlice and the coconut crab, also hatch out as nauplii? What about tongue worms, who are perhaps the strangest-looking of all crustaceans, lacking a hard outer shell and antennae?--Crustaceanguy 14:59, 6 April 2007 (UTC)