Talk:Cruel Intentions 2

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Contents 1 spelling 2 Picture and clublez.com link necessary? 3 Revert by Fabrib 4 Fair use rationale for Image:Cruelintentions2-2.jpg 5 Fair use rationale for Image:Cruelintentions2-2.jpg

[edit] spelling

Whoever wrote this has dyslexia. I'm too lazy to edit it, but Jesus. --68.190.195.139 18:25, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for that very polite review, though as you seem to "lazy" as you put it, to contribute yourself, why not hold back such opinions directly attacking an editor who at-least added to the article.--Fabio 17:14, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Any better now? - penagate _{[talk|contribs]} 00:29, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks you've done a much better job then me. Though what did you mean by this "Nitpicks led to copyedits of most sentences."?--Fabio^Talk 00:58, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't know. I was extremely sleepy at the time. - penagate _{[talk|contribs]} 07:44, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Jesus? Really? I didn't know he was a member of Wikipedia.

Anyway, the plot-summary is pretty long and fairly in-depth, considering the movie was a direct-to-video. Also, paragraphs shouldn't start with things like 'We are shown this', or 'We are taken there'. The correct way of doing it is things like 'This is shown', or 'Something happens there'. Me, I'm lazy, not going to do it either. ~~

[edit] Picture and clublez.com link necessary?

Just wondering, I know the whole pornopedia debate but it seems a little too over the top for this article, which is still a stub, to focus on that particular scene when other critical details are being overlooked. The link is debatable in the essence that it is essentially nothing more than added masturbatory fodder, since it provides nothing insightful that already doesn't appear in the article. 63.233.12.48 10:21, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

understanding your point of view i would agree if the image in question could be considered pornographic, but i don't think it is and as the plot summary directly refers to the scene in question and of its importance to the film, i believe it has full justification to be included.--Fabio 17:19, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Revert by Fabrib

The Sorrell twins are sisters in real life. In the shower scene, Sebastian asks them if they are sisters - they reply "more like kissing cousins". AFAIK, there is nothing in the film which actually states these two characters are sisters and the dialog, as far as it goes, is in favour of them being cousins. Accordingly, I have reverted the article back to my changes which point out the characters in the film are cousins. Toby Douglass 18:44, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

They are both sisters in real life AND IN THE FILM, the expression "kissing cousins" was used to describe there physical intamacy with one another, not that they where cousins. Also when Sabastian says "so.. you two sister?", he only says this because he has nothing else to say, if you look at his facial expression you can see he regrets saying it becuase it was such a stupid question, ofcourse they where sister, THEY WHERE TWINS. The sismple fact of the matter is that you did not understand the suitble dialogue and body language during that scene. --Fabio^Talk 18:57, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Where in the film does the screenplay indicate they are sisters?

Your assertation they are sisters is meaingless unless you can show information from the screenplay that it is true.

Sebastians question is indeed because he had nothing else to say, but that does not invalidate their answer. The fact of the matter, as far as I can tell, is that you are basing your opinion on the fact they are sisters in real life; you have not provided material from the screenplay to indicate the characters are sisters, and their response in the screenplay to being asked that question is that they are cousins.

As such, I have reverted the article to my changes. If you can show information from the screenplay that they are sisters, I will remove my changes. In lieu of that information, you must accept these changes, because you have given no evidence that they are sisters and the screenplay appears suggests that they are cousins. Toby Douglass 13:14, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm tired of argueing with you, so im going to say this; im going to revert it back and i'l keep reverting it every single time you change it. FOR GOD SAKE THERE TWINS, SINCE WHEN HAVE YOU EVER SEEN IDENTICAL COUSINS--Fabio^Talk 14:30, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Samantha and Serena in Bewitched were identical. It was used as a plot device in many an episode. They were cousins. Thus, in the world of TV fiction, identical cousins are possible 58.110.130.74 11:14, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't understand how you're tired of arguing, because you're not argued anything; you've simply asserted your view is true. If there is information which indicates your view is objectively true, then present it. Otherwise, stop reverting my changes. Toby Douglass 11:58, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Everyone here should read Wikipedia's rule against reverting multiple times. Users who continually revert to their version may be blocked. Firsfron of Ronchester 17:08, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Yep, I've read them, Firsfron.

So, anyway, I was directed here by Fabrib, as I recently edited this wiki-article, so as to correct any errors or what-have-you. In any case, could you please fill me in on this matter? Thanks. Oh, right, the sisters - I don't really know whether they are sisters in the film, or not, so I don't think I can help too much, there. Sorry. Qwerty 04:49, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

So, I've read the thing, again, and yes, there's been quite a revision-war going on. I have only made minor edits, which are dedicated to corrections. Sorry. Qwerty 04:53, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

ok i've found a reference, Cruel inetentions 2 "Naked lesbian Twins", there check it out, it may convince you.--Fabio^Talk 17:01, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm not convinced. That review is sensationalist; it's obvious from the USE OF BLOCK CAPITALS whenever they refer to "NAKED TWIN SISTERS". I doubt very much they would care for it *not* to be so. The script says, and I quote; "are you sisters?" "...more like kissing cousins". It's not clear or definitive, but in the script they could have said "yes!" and they did *not*. I await your response to this. Toby Douglass 11:58, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Cruelintentions2-2.jpg

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Cruelintentions2-2.jpg

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