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Your idea

I'd be honored. :) DurovaCharge! 16:11, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

List of CD bodies

Hi, hope you are doing well, and also I hope the house did not fall off the trailer when you moved it  :0) .... anyway I did this following deletion of similar from bottom of CD page by others...it parallels MS bodies...comments...later.io_editor (talk) 19:11, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi, the move went well and the house is still standing! ;) I crashed and burned from over doing of course and I am now trying to heal my insides and get rid of a really bad cold that I just had to share with my beloved husband! :)
Do I understand that you crashed and burned the trailer, but the house landed on its feet?............ Danica Patrick, step aside....io_editor (talk) 23:17, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
I did see the link you added and the others deleted. I think the wikilink should hold but the rules about medical articles and what is and is not acceptable is quite confusing to me to be honest.
Well I had seen the MS parallel page. Also saw the caregiving page in the last 20 minutes. It seems to be almost routine. I suppose it gets hard to draw the line if bloggers add theirs. But the MS page looked good.io_editor (talk) 23:17, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
I am trying at this time with the help of a wonderful editor to add some Pyoderma gangrenosum pictures to the medical articles. And if I am able, I would like to research this disease again, it's been since 2002 since I actually did any research on it, to try to update and expand the article stub. --CrohnieGalTalk 15:48, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
I assume you mean add PG images to the CD page, maybe UC page. I will check, but I almost dread to look.io_editor (talk) 23:17, 7 April 2008 (UTC)


I have the images already, I just need her help to down load the images correctly.--CrohnieGalTalk 11:39, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

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Woo Hoo!

I made it through another year still being vertical! It's been a long hard year for me but I have to say that I am very pleased and have lots of love in my heart for everyone who has help and supported me here and with my family!

Again I would like to thank everyone for helping me when I needed it (and even when I didn't know I needed help.). Thank you everyone and good health and happiness to all of you. --CrohnieGalTalk 19:25, 11 April 2008 (UTC) PS: I figured I would practice using the images.

I think I know what you mean. May I humbly be the first here to say thanks for your out-reach, congrats on being resolute, and congrats on progress too.io_editor (talk) 22:54, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

ENGVAR

Hi Crohnie,

Regards this diff, check WP:ENGVAR - authorisation is a valid spelling, but in the UK and former colonies. Engvar is pretty vague, but basically if it's an article that's mostly about a US subject, it gets the 'z'; if it's mostly british, 's'. This is only a bit of interesting info - I think your change to natalizumab was suitable as it's mostly a drug developed and approved in the states. WLU (talk) 14:59, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

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Natalizumab side effects

Hi Crohnie,

I read your post on talk:natalizumab, which dealt with side effects. My vague recollection was that you had a citation and write-up for the non-PML and liver side effects of natalizumab that is more specific than the current 'fatigue and allergic reactions' (i.e. rash, etc). I have a part request, part suggestion - I think it would be very good for you as an editor to be bold! and add both the expanded list of specific side effects and the citation to the page. The best way to learn on wikipedia is to do, that is, to edit. The page has active oversight from several experienced editors, so if you do make an error, it will be noticed in short order and corrected (myself, being an admitted wikiholic, will probably notice it within a couple hours).

You don't have to, you've said before that you don't want to add stress because of wikipedia. Though engaging on talk pages is a big part of wikipedia, it just isn't as fun as editing a main page. Errors can be reverted, and I've no doubts of your good intentions. I also have no doubt that your careful analysis and excellent writing skills would be an asset to mainspace as well as talk pages. I could probably add the info myself fairly easily, but as I said, practice is instructive and invaluable. If you'd prefer, you could draft a section based on what you already have on your sandbox, and I could gander at it to let you know if there's any adjustments I think would be beneficial, then you could paste it yourself into the page.

My efforts in this are not solely for your benefit - wikipedia needs knowledgeable editors who can interpret and apply sources and policy, as well as being able to work with other editors calmly and civily. Wikipedia's not that scary, and there's always an undo button, please be our Obi-Wan and help us! WLU (talk) 17:43, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

I commented on the talk page as the information about the liver damage possibilities is now in the article by someone. Sorry I disappeared but I do so when I am too ill to be on line. I think I addressed some of the major issues being discussed at this time, mainly WP:Weight for the serious side effects, also the chart and other comments that you can read on the talk page. Some of the posts are so long and technical that to be honest it's really hard to catch up on discussions there. I know I should be WP:Bold with my editing but I am a layperson just trying to get medical articles written so that people like me with no medical background can understand and follow the links to learn more. The rules for putting information into medical articles are kind of hard for me to follow and understand. I guess you can say that I am like many who try to educate myself about things but tend to go to sites that don't give even balance, which I am learning better to do with just following article changes and working on the talk pages to help with consensus. I posted the information I found about liver damage on the talk page because at the time it seemed it was being heavily debated on the talk page and being reverted enough not to try to put it into the article until a consensus was made. I think now from my readings that a consensus to put in the major damage that can be caused is now done and there should no longer be any debates about undue weight. --CrohnieGalTalk 15:47, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, curious. The rules for adding content are basically the same for medical and non, MEDRS just means it has to be a more reliable source (scientific journals, position statements and review articles from big organizations, but the sources you cited in your analysis were perfectly good). That's my interpretation, but I've spent a ridiculous amount of time here.
You're not the only layperson BTW, I didn't know natalizumab from Natalie Portman before January, all of my efforts are based on read and summarizing the sources I've managed to find. Lack of expertise isn't really a barrier 'cause everyone is limited by what the sources say.
The reasons I asked you were four-fold - a) you have a very good grasp of written english b) you're quite personable :) meaning you come across as very neutral and base your comments on sources c) you're the extant expert on non-liver/PML side-effects of natalizumab because you've read the sources! and d) I thought you might like the practice with someone to check your work shortly after you finish (takes away the scary part about being wrong). Obviously I can't force you to edit, I'm just trying to nudge you so after a bit of editing you'll get some more confidence in your abilities and hopefully be more active in adding to main pages. I think you'd be a good editor and an asset to wiki.
Anyway, it's of course your choice, and if you don't wish to edit the main article I may ruthlessly mine your sources and do it myself. Even adding the article and your analysis saves me a large amount of time and effort, so thanks! WLU (talk) 16:25, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the nice comments, I really appreciate it. I am thinking of being a bit bolder. I am reading the Remicade article since it was recommended and said to be an excellent article. Well I don't think it's totally balanced. There are gaping holes in the information there. As an example, under the Crohn's section it states the different types of CD that occur and Remicade is not to be used for people with stricturing because the drug heals to quickly and causes the scarring to be more extreme thus causing the stricture to be more. This is where I am at now, strictures are my main problem along with mild activities, but I cannot do Remicade do to the stricturing and the blockages I get all the time which I battle with. So, I am now trying to find sources to show that Crohn's patients with stricturing problems should not use Remicade treatments. The article doesn't have a section for side effects though some of the side effects are dispersed through the article but they are pretty much buried in a sea of words. People want to know side effects, or I guess I should say possible side effects to make decisions. This drug is a wonder drug for a lot of people I know with IBD, but there are others who have bad experiences do to things like stricturing disease. To be honest, I didn't think that my sources would be excepted! :) It's nice to know I did do the corrrect research! You are welcomed to use anything I find that I just post up for information, I don't mind and just so you know, I don't have a fear of being reverted, or anything of this sort, I guess my main concern is I want to improve the article, not damage it or cause problems with others. --CrohnieGalTalk 16:40, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Reading your reply, I was cringing until I saw "...I am now trying to find sources to show that Crohn's patients..." at which point I went "Ah, Crohnie grok". My recommendation is to always start at www.pubmed.org; the search feature is OK, and virtually any source you find there should be acceptable. Once you find an article, diberri allows you to create a template in seconds that is error-free. It does also depend on the information; for relatively innocuous side effects like the ones you found for natalizumab you could probably leave it unsourced (though a source is preferred and more helpful to readers in most cases).
If the page lacks a side effects section, check out WP:MEDMOS - there's supposed to be. Though Infliximab is excellent according to who? The page is not a featured article and seems wildly out of line with MEDMOS. Changes like reordering per MEDMOS, in addition to being a good exercise for editing, should improve the page. If you'd really like the practice in a stress-free and safe place, create a sandbox for infliximab and do your editing there, then ask for an opion when you're done. From there it's ridiculously easy to just past your perfect sandbox into the main article space. WLU (talk) 16:58, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Wow I just got locked out for maintenance I think! Not going to write it again now. Going off line now for awhile before my hubby gets angry. ;) --CrohnieGalTalk 17:10, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

<undent>Locked out of editing and an angry spouse. Sounds like my Tuesday night :) I frequently fight over the computer and feel your pain. Sometimes they just don't realize how important wikipedia is :P A friend of mine sent me this a while ago. I think it captures my hobby perfectly. As for lockouts, they rarely last longer than a minute - just keep hitting edit/save until it goes through. WLU (talk) 17:57, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Good morning, I loved the link. I have to share that one with others! What I was going to say when my computer got locked out was I really appreciate your help with me. I am not a newbie on Wikipedia but my skills here are that of someone who just started with a slow learning curve to remember how to do the editing. But I keep trucking on and keep with the reminders so when I have a brain fart, I can go to my sandbox and remember how to put it. I also was going to say I love the way you edit. Your edits are usually fun to read, never boring. I enjoy that and find I remember what you say much easier because you usually give me a smile or laugh while helping. Thanks for that, --CrohnieGalTalk 11:45, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Fun to read? You must be talking about my talk page postings 'cause my mainspace are usually so NPOV I see them as dull. I really, really wish we had that image on the Wikimedia Commons - I'd replace the current picture on my talk page in a second.
Anyway, irrespective of your decision to edit, please feel free to ask me questions or for any feedback you'd like. I'll do my best to be neutral and refer to any policies I feel are appropriate. Just remember that my opinion will usually be more extreme than most editors - my interpretation of policies and guidelines tends to be quite literal, strict and inflexible. There's usually more wiggle room than my interpretation. WLU (talk) 15:06, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Yes I do mean your talk page edits, your article page edits I find to be very professional and well sourced. I find you to be a very excellent editor. I have to admit I am surprised that you aren't an administrator but I would totally understand why you would not want that position too!;) Feel free to keep an eye on me and make suggestion, revert or whatever. I don't allow this place to stress me out at all and I don't get offended easily either. I am here to stimulate brain cells and to have fun. When that stops happening then I will move on to something else. --CrohnieGalTalk 18:17, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
People don't seem to realize how easy editing is - find a source, summarize it, then cite it. Most of my disputes I try to resolve with sources, which is why I like medical articles and really kinda hate popculture stuff. I'm actively avoiding adminship because I'd be far too quick on the blocks and this way I'm forced to refer to policy. Plus, at this point I think I've pissed off enough editors that I don't know if I'd pass (I have a tendancy towards hypervigilance on pages I run into disputes on). I'm unlikely to check your contribs 'cause I don't consider you a problematic editor, which is why I will re-state my willingness to respond to questions. I probably won't see any 'mistakes' you might make unless it's on a page I'm already watching. But if I do, I'll drop you a line, either to point out how it could be improved, or that I've improved the page already. Happy trails, WLU (talk) 18:27, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Io

Nope, looks like I'm going ahead. Will RFC/U instead, possibly tomorrow or Monday. In the meantime, I'll be building a case here. Feel free to add if you'd like, please separate into your own section though. WLU (talk) 17:18, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

REMS

This is in response to your note at Natalizumab: Risk Evaluation and Mitigation Strategy (REMS) is a new set of paperwork for the US FDA. You basically explain why your drug, even though it's not perfectly safe, is worth keeping on the market. An approvable REMS is expected to say something like "Hardly anybody uses this drug anyway, they're all going to die if they don't get our drug, the nastiest side effects are rare anyway, and besides all that, if the doc runs this test every month, then the problem will be caught early, while it's still reversible" -- or something like that, except that you say it at much, much, much greater length, and with the details depending on the actual problems with the specific drug in question. WhatamIdoing (talk) 04:23, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for noticing the question I had. You are saying that I am going to have to explain the side effects and why I want to keep them in use? What if I'm not getting any major side effects? I just tell that? I am on the Actiq and I also have the patch but I don't think the fentalyn listed was in regards to the patch. As you can see I don't know much about this so I appreciate understanding all of this since I am do for a refill here soon. --CrohnieGalTalk 11:45, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Diffs

Hi Crohnie, I was going to post a long explanation of what a diff is, but then I reviewed your carefully thought-out prose and relized I was reading too quickly again and had missed the point. So the only thing I'll say here is the easiest way I've found to check through diffs is to load up the contribution history of the individual in question and use WP:POPUPS preview feature. Popups are great and very useful in general, though not as good as Hodgepodge (which unfortunately doesn't work very well with internet explorer). WLU (talk) 14:21, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey now that is so cool to me, thanks! I wasn't sure at first what it was going to do until I hit a diff and it brought up a box of info. I didn't even notice the stuff on my preferences until now. Well I noticed it when I first got here but not knowing what it was about I didn't do anything with any of it. I just got some things changed so maybe I will be bolder now that I am seeing a whole bunch more info that I assume a lot of editors have been using to help them out. Thanks so much, you made my day, actually today has been one excellent day for me. I feel good, I've been laughing and having fun over stupid little things but hey, I'm vertical, doing things and having a good time doing it so to me it's a wonderful day! :) I guess you can say I am easy to amuse! --CrohnieGalTalk 17:39, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Must be sunny where you are too :) I had my windows open all weekend for the first time in months. Fuckin' Canadian winters :P WLU (talk) 18:50, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
It was hot and humid here, somewhere in the 80's. We had the windows open this morning until about 11 because it was beautiful and around 60. Then it got hot, windows got shut and the a/c has been going ever since. ;) I'm in Florida. I here you about Canada, you do have some different weather than I even know. I am one of those infrequent people who has never even seen snow before. When a net friend told me about her winters there I had a hard time picturing it. I had another friend in Michigan that sent pictures of her snow days for about two years.  :) --CrohnieGalTalk 21:53, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
I was in Florida in Feb, got myself a couple bags of oranges and went to Disneyland. You have TERRIBLE roads! I was considering writing your congressman! The same road has three different names on three different maps, curse you! In Calgary it snowed all weekend. That's an anomaly, Canada's not actually a year-round frozen wasteland. Now it's around 72, very comfy. A real winter is definitely something worth living through, if nothing else than to appreciate summer again :) WLU (talk) 22:18, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
You weren't that far from me, maybe four hours. I'm in Palm Beach County. The roads are always under construction. It's horrible, none of the intellegent (and I use this term sarcastically) thought that working a road or two at a time would be easier to keep things moving. Around here it like all the roads are being done, yet very seldom do you see anyone in those big expensive trucks! The main highways that are used, they had the brilliant idea to change the Sunpass and enlarge the roads and move the exits all at the same time. This is wonderful for prime time driving, not! Contacting someone doesn't do any good. The usual lines are we are out of budget money, we are behind schedule and so on.  :) If you come down this way next time, maybe you'll get close enough so I can buy you a cup of coffee. (sorry no alcohol for this lady! :))--CrohnieGalTalk 22:45, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Twinkle

Hi Crohnie,

I've never used twinkle, sorry! No real advice. You said 'OE', I assume you mean 'IE', internet explorer? That's the terrible abortion of a program I am forced to use as well. I have installed Popups, from what I've seen it's less useful than Twinkle but I still find it very handy.

If you install popups (as easy as going to preferences > gadgets > click the Popups box, in my day it was harder, and you really appreciated it when it worked! Damn kids with their cellphones and their easy gadgets clickboxes...) then it allows one-click reverting. When you hover the cursor over the 'diff' in watchlist, or over a specific edit in the history or mainpage during a diff, it'll give you an option 'rv' (it's pretty cramped in my version - it shows up as

contribs * log * count * email
editOld|rv|cur|new

Play around with popups on your talk page or a sandbox for a bit until you get used to it - it's not hard to figure out at all, but a bit of practice will save you reverting to the wrong version. I'm still figuring things out with it, and it's pretty handy. I'm not sure how it works, but there's also an option to rollback which is one-touch and quicker than a revert. See WP:ROLL.

Really, to fully take advantage of the tools you pretty much have to switch to Firefox. If you have the option, I heartily recommend it, I've always found firefox much better than the Windows equivalent. WLU (talk) 14:23, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi there! I noticed your message over at WLU's Talk page, and, in case you're interested, you now have rollback rights. Use them wisely ;) Fvasconcellos (tยทc) 15:56, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks to both of you. I will check on the roll back feature to see how to get it, use it. WLU, I have the Popup features thanks to you telling me about it a little earlier! ;) I will have to practice though with the popup features though from the sounds of it. Fvasconcellos, with the small amount of editing I do, not WP:Bold enough as I have been told, ;), I will check into the rollback rights Thanks again. --CrohnieGalTalk 16:07, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Wah! I want rollback rights! What's involved? From what I know BTW, it's basically a quick version of a revert.
Crohnie, I've got a somewhat awkward favour I was wondering if you could help with - do you by chance have access to a picture of natalizumab, the vial or packaging? It'd be really nice to get an image in the infobox at the top of the page but there's to date no molecular model available from which to draft a picture. Failing that, a picture of the packaging is an adequate substitute. I don't think you're taking N, but do you know someone who is? Could you ask your doctor if you could snap a photo? Are you on web fora somewhere? The image use rights are pretty complicated and I HATE THEM, but as far as I know, if you or someone else takes a picture and uploads it basically with 'I took this picture and I release the rights so it can be used by anyone for anything', it's OK. One obvious concern is to remove any identifying information it might contain, but even that isn't a huge deal if the person doesn't care. WLU (talk) 16:14, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Sorry I don't take it and I don't know anyone that does off hand but I will see if I can get one sent to me from a board I visit. I'll let you know if I get one. --CrohnieGalTalk 16:21, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks Crohnie, gotta love the electronic age. They basically have to be comfortable with the image being used for anything, which is why they may want to eliminate identification marks and such the like. Perhaps one of the admins stalking your talk page could be more helpful. I HATE IMAGE USE. HATE it. WLU (talk) 16:31, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
I did a search and found this, [1] On the right hand side it has "Share this photo" then a box with the URL. Can this be used? --CrohnieGalTalk 16:49, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

(undent) Sorry, I don't know. You could bring it up at image use policy. I really kinda doubt it though, but when it comes to images I'm very reluctant to say anything concrete just because I HATE IMAGE USE and find it very confusing. I don't think I'm a stupid guy, but I start reading copyright information and the left hemisphere of my brain starts to beat up my right hemisphere in a desperate attempt not to die of boredom. How d'you feel about doing this yourself as a learning exercise? Because (and I don't know if I've mentioned it) I HATE IMAGE USE. WLU (talk) 17:36, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I hear you on that, so do I! I have some images I want to upload for Pyoderma gangrenosum but I never went through the whole thing, I had help to load one picture I took. Maybe I'll get around to uploading these and get the practice. But it is so much work and the way it is written it's hard to follow what to do. :) --CrohnieGalTalk 18:00, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm guessing it's not actually that bad, but I've never found the easy way to do it. After getting about 10 book covers deleted, I've finally hit on a fair use rational that works for book covers. And aside from that I only upload pictures I've taken myself. If you do find an easy way, please keep me in mind. WLU (talk) 18:05, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Thank you, I will learn how to use it and will use it wisely. WLU, I am asking for help on the picture issues since I can't figure it out at all! --CrohnieGalTalk 19:06, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
It's a bastard it is. You have my sympathy but not my help. Please linky-link me to any fruitful discussion. Contemplate the {{helpme}} tag even. WLU (talk) 19:19, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I sure will! Can you direct me to where to go to put pictures in? Where I went wants to put my file in from where it came from, my computer file, and that I won't do. There has to be a way to put pictures into Wikipedia without using my own file folder. Also, my post on my website gave me the same picture I showed you in the URL from natalizumab. I say we use the one from there and see if it flies. Now if I only knew how to! --CrohnieGalTalk 10:42, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
So you are trying to post from a website to wikipedia? I don't think that will work, I've only seen it work when uploading directly from the computer. You could always post a message at the helpdesk to see what they say. It's possible that there's a fair use rationale that applies if we can't get permission from a person. WLU (talk) 10:55, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

<Outdent> No, I got a picture sent to me from a website to my email. I have the picture on an attachment to an email from a friend who took it from the N website. Now what do I do? --CrohnieGalTalk 10:58, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Photo

WLU I think I figured out how to put a picture in. I did it with the PG here [2] (Warning graphic picture) (now to get it into the article, hmmm!) What do you think? If I were to put the N picture in, what category would I use? I think it would be worth a try to see if it will stay in or not. Thoughts? --CrohnieGalTalk 12:55, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh fuck me please warn me before attracting my attention to something like that. I had a big breakfast and almost lost it all. I've a weak stomach for stuff like that.
Again, I'm going to have to play my useless card - I just don't know. Try a {{helpme}} tag if Delldot's reply below isn't useful.
Also note that my monitoring of my watchlist is getting spottier and spottier, if it's really important you should post me a message on my talk page. As you can see, I didn't notice this bit addressed to me until four days later, which is technically 'forever' on the internet.
Oh barf, I have to give blood now and I've got that gangrenous arm in my mind. Sorry Crohnie, I'm slinking away in horror and leaving you on your own with your disgusting picture. I can't stop thinking about it now...  :( I hope I don't vomit on the nurse. WLU (talk) 13:59, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Good news, I didn't throw up on the nurse. But I still don't have any useful advice. WLU (talk) 15:15, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
No worries Crohnie, you're on my 'relaxed' list of talk pages, which means you get more profanity and teasing. I still don't know what to do about the image :) WLU (talk) 18:43, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Neither do I but it's uploaded so it's available if anyone wants to use it. Like I said before, I enjoy your posts. --CrohnieGalTalk 18:48, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Saints alive, I sent a 'hail mary' e-mail to Elan and got a response! Which was to say I can't use the images I've found on the web. But, I think I might be able to use it on natalizumab because of this page! I am investigating... WLU (talk) 19:35, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

<outdent>Please keep me informed. It figures they would say no, you saved me time putting together an email to request the use! --CrohnieGalTalk 19:46, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Photo questions

Hi sweetie, pleasure to hear from you again. Hmm, I'm not sure we'll be able to use the photo. Who took it? The copyright belongs to the person who took it, so they would have to release it under a free license, which I can help with. Even if the person who took it is willing to release it, if it's been published on the web, we'll have to get permission from the site (or from an email address associated with it). I'm glad to help with this. I may not be able to be around much today, but I'll be able to help some time this weekend for sure. delldot talk 13:21, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

It's on a website that I found under Google search. It doesn't say if it is or isn't copy protected so maybe I should email them and see what they say about using it here. I'll get back to you on this. Thanks, --CrohnieGalTalk 13:38, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, if it doesn't specifically say it's a free picture, we have to treat it as though it's not. Definitely email them and see if they'll release it, I can help with that if you need. But it will probably have to be deleted in the mean time and re-uploaded if they give permission. Sorry for taking so long to get back to you on this. Peace, delldot talk 08:14, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Ok thanks, if you would please explain to me how to email the website if it's different than emailing a normal question to the site. I mean do I need to have them fill something out, come to Wikipedia? The picture in question is "here". We, WLU and I, were thinking a picture for this article would be appropriate [3]. Thanks Dell, and again there is no hurry ever with me, and definitely never an apology needed. You are always there to answer and help and I appreciate it. Thanks, --CrohnieGalTalk 12:05, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
I think probably the simplest would be to email them and find out if they'd be interested in donating the image. If they are, you can send them the text in the box at Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission#Declaration of consent for all enquiries they can fill out the required fields (or you can fill them out for them, to make it easier for them). Let me know when they've emailed you back and I'll help with the rest, we'll forward it to Wikimedia and go through the rest of the steps.
Sorry, I think I was confused. You meant you found the picture of the drug on a website, or the pyoderma gangrenosum one commons:Image:Crohnie Pyoderma gangrenosum.jpg? I'm sorry, I tagged that one for deletion thinking that it had already been published on the web. Has it? If it's been on the web, we may have to get that site to release it. Who took it? Because the person who took the picture would have to be the one to release it. Anyway, we probably have time to get it fixed because it takes a while for stuff to get deleted on commons. Sorry for the confusion! Talk to you soon I hope! Peace, delldot talk 13:34, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
That picture was given to me out right to use as I please. There shouldn't be any problems leaving it as it is. I checked around with others who put pictures in and was told it would be ok for me to load it in since it was basically my picture now since it was given to me. It has not been posted on any websites. Thanks, --CrohnieGalTalk 13:38, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Oh, ok, I removed the tag. Sorry about that! Anyways, drop me a note if and when they reply to the email in case I don't see it here. Peace, delldot talk 16:58, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

<outdent> No problem, I will when I get a chance to email them about the other. Still empting boxes and such from the move. Thanks as always, --CrohnieGalTalk 18:17, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good, good luck with the unpacking! delldot talk 18:21, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks for your very kind comments on my talkpage. You're the second person to ask me to take a look at that page, so maybe I really should!! When I have a minute, I will aim to wade through the posts. You're right that there is a lot to plough through! --Slp1 (talk) 17:15, 15 May 2008 (UTC)