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1 PRC HQ7 version
2 Every mention
3 Crotale NG and Multi-Shield 100
4 Liberty missile:

[edit] PRC HQ7 version

Where did the Chinese fish the plans for the Crotale? David.Monniaux 09:08, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Several sources indicate that the PRC was arranging for the missile to be locally produced, along with a bunch of others (i.e. Italian Aspide AAM), and had obtained basic technical data from its manufacturer. Nothing unusual. Since the Tiananmen massacre and its political fallout, however, the PRC might have resorted to "other means" (i.e. espionage). It's the same with most of the modern comabt systems.

According to SDF [1] , Thomson CSF exported several R440 Crotale and Sea Crotale systems to China in late 1970s. Two R440 Sea Crotale systems were installed on PLAN ships for evaluation, the #109 Kaifeng (051 Luda class) and #112 Harbin (052 Luhu class) along with Thomson-CSF TSR 3004 Sea Tiger E/F band radar.

At the time PLAN was looking to upgrade its naval ships with air-defense capability. They also looked into imported the British GWS 30 Sea Dart SAM system for installation on 2 Luda DDG's, along with the radar and fire control systems. But the Brits wanted $150 million USD in 1983 and the PLAN thought it was too expensive, so ultimately the cheaper French system was selected.

After 6/89 Tianmen Square incident, European countries imposed arms export ban to PRC. But I suspect the French probably just sold the R440 Crotale design to China for reverse engineering. Considering the latter Chinese HQ-7A and Pakistani "Crotale 4000" upgrade programs, it wouldn't surprise me if they sold some of the VT-1 missile upgrade tech too. -- Adeptitus 17:14, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Every mention

of finland, with the pictures of the CROTALE NG should be removed from this article as these both the system and the missile are totally different. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.248.159.240 (talk) 01:25, 16 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Crotale NG and Multi-Shield 100

I'd like to propose we separate the R440 and Crotale NG into 2 wikipedia entries. -- Adeptitus 17:14, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Liberty missile:

Perhaps some mention should be made of the Liberty SAM which was developed for the United States FAAD program before losing out to ADATS? The Crotale NG with it's VT-1 missile is largely based of the technology developed during the FAAD program. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.80.127.242 (talk) 02:16, 10 June 2008 (UTC)