Talk:Crossiron Mills

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[edit] Rewrite to avoid a promotional flavour

I tagged it because of its "promotional" flavour—at the moment it sounds like a prospectus prepared by the real estate developer. It needs to be rewritten so that it is NPOV, all statements are sourced, and the tone is encyclopedic—then of course it can stay. Hurdle to be mastered: finding verifiable sources for any assertions made that do not simply amount to taking the word of the backers of the project on faith.

At present it sounds like advertising because the statements about what features it "will" have are not (yet) verifiable facts, but simply someone's promises. These "not yet facts" need to be rephrased along the lines of: "According to statements by XYZ Corp. and ABC Regional Economic Development Commission, the backers of the project, the mall will have …" Statements like this are verifiable; one just needs to cite mainstream media (typically a reputable newspaper—promotional materials or company websites are not enough) showing that spokespersons for XYZ and ABC did in fact make such public statements.

Since you say you'll fix it, I'll remove the speedy-delete tag and replacing it with "sounds like advertising" tag pending rework. --IslandGyrl 19:39, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Added New Sections

I have added a Controversy section (not really promotional) as well external links to an article on Canada.com (which i hope would be a reliable resource).--Gaeriel 20:30, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question

This is my first article so i better ask this before i get in trouble. I found an artists rendering on what this mall might look like on their main website, however, there is no licence or copyright on this image that i could find in the terms & conditions or their privacy policy. I sent them an e-mail, but other than that, what else should i do?

[edit] Removal

I am going to remove the {Advertising} tag on this page. I re-worked it as to not sound like a rep is advertising this project. More information has been added for neutrality.--Gaeriel 17:29, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CrossIron Mills

It appears that the official name of the mall will be "CrossIron Mills" according to Ivanhoe Cambridge. I am not very familiar with Wikipedia editing so I think I will leave it to someone else to perform such a large edit.

[edit] Screwed up Royally, sorry

I created an article titled 'Crossiron mills' without seeing this article, otherwise I would have just 'moved' it. But I'm not that great with WIKI so I screwed it up. Noticing the lack of capitalization I moved that article to 'CrossIron Mills'. Fine. then I found this article. So now this article redirects to Crossiron Mills. But CrossIron Mills brings you to my new article. Can someone much much smarter than me fix this? Last time I try to create and redirect articles. Damn.

[edit] Trying to Fix

Wow, this is a dittly of a pickel. What i have done is add all the new information from your article and put it into this one. We will keep one of the articles and then redirect yours the the new revampt one. I will leave it to you to change the article that you have started. Sound good? P.S. Make sure to leave your signature in the discussion so we know who said what :) --Gaeriel 15:27, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Much Better

Thanks, looks like its been sorted out. Really appreciate the help. Will fix up the article.--68.147.194.28 02:16, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] First real mall since 1990

I did a little checking, and as near as I can tell, if one doesn't count cases where malls have been reconstructed (i.e. Franklin Mall becoming Pacific Place Mall, and Dragon City in Chinatown was reconstructed from a previous development), Crossiron will be the first enclosed mall built in the Calgary region since Calgary Eaton Centre. I've added this to the article, however if anyone can cite a shopping mall newer than 1990, please do so. Given how much Calgary has become "power centre" happy in the last decade -- Crowfoot, Deerfoot Meadows and Shawnessy would have been major Chinook/Southcentre-style malls had they been developed 30 years ago -- I think this is a fact that is notable and worth including in this article. 68.146.47.196 20:27, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 2008 opening?

Is this still correct? I drove by the site only a few days ago and it's not even a hole in the ground; real construction hasn't even started yet. Is the mall still expected to be up and running next year? I would expect 2009 to be a more realistic target. 68.146.41.232 16:24, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

  • There's no way the mall will be done this year. I have added a citation needed tag because of a 2008 opening is still being claimed, there should be a source given; alternately, if the opening date is being pushed back, this should be updated. 23skidoo (talk) 01:40, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
    • Ivanhoe Cambridge lists August 2009 as the targetted opening date now. I've updated the article to reflect this. Resolute 18:14, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
      • And I'll update the infobox, too. Even 2009 looks to be a bit optimistic based upon how much has been completed to date. 23skidoo (talk) 14:27, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dead links

The two site plan PDF links are no longer active and it appears all IC has on their site now is a brief description of the project. Does anyone know if these PDFs have been archived anywhere? 68.146.41.232 (talk) 16:30, 23 March 2008 (UTC)