Talk:Cross-dressing in film and television

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[edit] Is this meant to be a list or not?

This article is currently a rather awkward and hard to read hodgepodge of lists, short summaries, and longer descriptions of films and TV programs. There doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason to which films are covered in-depth. Why does "Glen or Glenda?" deserve a long paragraph while "Yentl" gets a single sentence? Do we really need to know exactly what kind of cross-dressing occurs in every television example? If the goal is to present an exhaustive list of films or TV programs that prominently feature cross-dressing, I think it's going to have to be a simple list of titles with perhaps some brief general analysis (e.g., cross-dressing is a time-honored comedy staple, while serious dramas about cross-dressing are rare). However, I didn't want to totally reformat the article without giving others the chance to present their opinions here. CKarnstein 05:56, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Its not true about Eric Idle being the main Python playing women. They all did, but if anything Terry Jones was the main 'woman'.

[edit] What about Joan of Arc?

Shouldn't the different movies on the historical character be mentioned? I mean, what is the difference with the female character of The Lord of the Rings? Nazroon 05:01, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NBC pattern

The National Broadcasting Company appears to have many of these shows:

  • Uncle Miltie Berle
  • Flip Wilson
  • Saved by the Bell
  • Friends
  • Kenan Thompson on Saturday Night Live

Has anyone noticed this????? How shall we put this in the article? Arbol25 06:16, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "As a non-comedic element"

The presence of this section seems rather misleading - a quick glance over the previous section reveals several where the cross-dressing is nothing to do with comedy (e.g., LOTR). I know it says "most" not "all", but it's going to be hard to track whether it really is "most" or not. Shouldn't the non-comedies be moved to this section? (Also there may be the problem that some films may be comedies, but the cross-dressing is not inherently part of the humour.) Or would it be best to do away with this separate section? I'm not sure what's the point of this section when we've already got a section for listing films? Mdwh 11:01, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hairspray

How can John Travolta's "cross-dressing" be a "central plot element", when, in the film, he is NOT cross-dressing? Corvus cornix 03:19, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Eliminated Extreme POV on "Boys Don't Cry."

Teena Brandon was a girl pretending to be a boy, not a boy with female genitals as was previously written. Boys don't have female genitals unless they have chromosomal/hormonal/endicrinal problems that cause their male genitals to not develop. When that happens, they usually end up being raised as girls. Teena Brandon was a girl who dressed trying to pass as a boy, tried to fool people and paid dearly for it, period.JBDay 19:26, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

F2m transsexuals are not "pretending" to be male! Please see Brandon Teena, or indeed, transsexualism. Mdwh 03:56, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, the page is about films. It is not about promotion of ideology. Teena Brandon was a girl who pretended to be a boy for whatever reason and she got killed when she was discovered.You wish to espouse extreme POV i.e. promotion of an ideology. That is inconsistent with a NPOV policy. Perhaps you should write a page connected to the ts pages, but not this film page. Please do not provoke me on this, as I could easily argue with you. That is not my purpose, giving a correct account of the film is.JBDay 19:24, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

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