Talk:Croatian Spring
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maybe it should be mentioned that the repudiation of croatian and serbian national symbols held, only 23 years after the second world war, a certain rationale behind it. it seems to me that there is at least an issue in that attempting to (and i understand how incredibly miserable the tightrope walk is) mediate between balkan nationalities and their claims, nonetheless we should not negate the objective reality of what the NDH for example actually was (and citing, though probably out of the scope of explaining why the communists had no interest in allowing croat or ustasa symbols [and i did say "or"] to gain any nationalistic currency, studies of the activity of cetnik organizations in eastern bosnia, and sorry don't know the rules for formulating diacritics). just to say that speaking the language(s), having lived there, but not being of any of the ethnicities represented in the former yugoslavia and having lived in four of the republics, i think (and i think that any who's being honest) will note that it's important to point out that "bratsvo i jedinstvo" wasn't just stupid communist paranoia, and the communists didn't see it as just being paranoid towards nationalism but had a visceral feeling that movements like the croatian spring or the albanian protests of 1981 and even later with the "slovene spring" were a terrible omen of something that (and you have to be bruatally honest here) did actually happen between 1991 and the present.
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June 6, 2006 - I would like to see some proof behind the statistics provided on the page - i.e. that Serbia used 46% of transfer funds, and that Croatia retained only 7% of the tourism money it made. Although possibly true, I don't think the Croatian Spring movement could really be said to have been motivated by an economic philosophy - nationalism and ethnic ideology had everything to do with it. Still, I would like to see the author of those 'statistics' back it up with some data. Thank you.
I'd like to see an explanation of why this was chauvinist (there was no prejudiced belief of the superiority of the Croatians involved, at least none that I can see) or nationalist (as opposed to simply patriotic).
When was Jasenovac i Gradiška Stara exactly sung during the Spring? Never heard of any such thing. Former Yugoslavia was particularly harsh on fascism, there's no way that this would ever have been done by the movement leaders.
The rant in the later paragraph is just junk. What was so covert about the constitutional change and the actions of Croatian politicians between 1971 and 1980s? How does this expression of Croatian patriotism put the atrocities of NDH in "the second plan" - did any expression of Croatian patriotism somehow become inherently wrong because of NDH? How does the Spring relate to any sort of goal of getting an "ethnically pure Croatian state"? How did the Croatian secession "purge Croatia of Serbs"?
I guess some people just don't care about common sense... --Joy [shallot] 17:01, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
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I think that is absurd. Their national symbols were part of the yugoslav emblem. see here *http://hem.bredband.net/vuk-sfrj/grbhrv.gif, http://hem.bredband.net/vuk-sfrj/grbsrb.gif, etc.*.. so this article, is in a sense, false. Tito's government banned nazi symbols (like germany does today). Please do not use wikipedia to post bias material. With this in mind, I am altering this article to fit its neutral stand.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.151.136.19 (talk) 05:11, 4 January 2007 (UTC).
