Talk:Criterium

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Added MTB mention, as this is happening more often these days. Sydney and Melbourne (Aus) have regular 'dirt crits' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.194.13.104 (talk) 05:45, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Merger

I dont think that kermese and crits should be merged because they are different styles of races. like apples and oranges. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.216.213.88 (talk) 12:27, January 25, 2008

How so? SeveroTC 16:59, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
They are similar styles of racing, essentially two names for the same thing. This is similar to soccer and football/futbol, where the rules and sport is identical, though the culture surrounding the race may be different depending on geographical occurrence. kermese should be mentioned in the criterium article-- perhaps with its own section-- but there's no real need for a separate article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CarlosFLugo (talk) 20:01, January 26, 2008
as one who has raced both U.S. (road) criteriums and kermessen in Belgium, I vote they should stand separate. American criteriums are typically very short course multilap events of maybe 1 to 2 city blocks run on time (e.g. ~ 1 hour + 3 or 5 laps). Kermessen are typically done on a longer, 'circuit' type course and run on distance, not time. There are other cultural differences but I feel that the two are indeed quite different, and in fact most European road racers don't do well or even like American style criteriums because the speeds, handling skills and tactics are considerably different between the 2. —Preceding unsigned comment added by lonefrontranger (talk) 20:01, January 26, 2008