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[edit] Proposed merger from Crime index and Crime rate

There's not enough here to justify three separate start-class articles that overlap almost 100%. Let's merge and look in future at whether any specific aspect needs a sub-article. --VSerrata 12:35, 5 April 2007 (UTC) See also Dark figure of crime which I'm thinking is probably worth keeping as a sub-article on perceptions of crime statistics. --VSerrata 12:41, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Agreed, just make sure that the Dark figure of crime article is linked to in the new merged peice. SGGH 13:53, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Also see the couple of points I raised on the WP:LE talk page :) SGGH 13:54, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
I disagree with merging the three (or four) articles mentioned above. While I agree that Crime statistics should be the prime article, I think there should be separate articles for both Crime index and Crime rate. These are two fairly common terms that each need explaining in some detail, rather than simply being buried in the middle of a large article that discusses many other aspects of gathering, recording and analysing crime statistics. -- Cameron Dewe 00:06, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
I think that if you put crime rate and crime index as sections you could clean up a couple of useless items. It would be easier for readers because a rate IS a statistic and items are "rated" in an index.Sutjo-18005 (talk) 02:43, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
The article needs to be a bit more systematical in discussing crime and criminal justice statistics with links to the several sources, it is not just a matter of merging but of restructuring. It is now too much focussed on USA, here some European input. (may, 2008)
  • crime and criminal justice statistics / properties and limitations
    • official data
      • international data compiled by UN and INTERPOL (and a few other governmental/international organisations such a OECD)
    • victimisations survey amongst population of several types
      • international comparative victimisation surveys (there are several)
    • other sources (not neccesarily on crime but on related issues) There is so much more to say on crime than just the things we put people in jail for
      • WHO on violence and murder (from the medical world)
      • Transparancy International on corruption
      • marketing data on reliability of business partners (strenght of the criminal justice system)
      • trafficing in and smuggling of human beings
      • terrorism
      • genocide
      • violation of human rights (amnesty international)
      • cross border organised crime
      • cross border environmental crime (Greenpeace)
      • crimes against animals (species dying out because they are hunted for their fur)

All these field make attempts to produce statistics, ans some are very successfull.

The UN crime stat link (http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/crime_monitoring_surveys.html) has stopped working. I am not sure exactly what content it originally pointed to so I can't fix it myself, sorry. Ttk11 (talk) 20:15, 12 May 2008 (UTC)