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[edit] Terrorism

I think this article should also include terrorism as a variety of crime.Biophys (talk) 22:10, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I think inclusion of terrorism will result in much expansion of this article and the article will become too long. In my opinion Terrorism in Russia is the appropriate article for this. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 23:38, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Terrorism in Russia should be linked in the See also section and so done. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 23:40, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Corruption

How about including the following paragraph?

Political analyst Andrei Piontkovsky considers current political system in Russia as "the highest and culminating stage of bandit capitalism” [1]. He believes that "Russia is not corrupt. Corruption is what happens in all countries when businessmen offer officials large bribes for favors. Today’s Russia is unique. The businessmen, the politicians, and the bureaucrats are the same people. They have privatized the country’s wealth and taken control of its financial flows." [2] Such views are also shared by former CIA director James Woolsey who said: "I have been particularly concerned for some years, beginning during my tenure, with the interpenetration of Russian organized crime, Russian intelligence and law enforcement, and Russian business. I have often illustrated this point with the following hypothetical: If you should chance to strike up a conversation with an articulate, English-speaking Russian in, say, the restaurant of one of the luxury hotels along Lake Geneva, and he is wearing a $3,000 suit and a pair of Gucci loafers, and he tells you that he is an executive of a Russian trading company and wants to talk to you about a joint venture, then there are four possibilities. He may be what he says he is. He may be a Russian intelligence officer working under commercial cover. He may be part of a Russian organized crime group. But the really interesting possibility is that he may be all three and that none of those three institutions have any problem with the arrangement." [3][4]

  1. ^ Putinism: highest stage of robber capitalism, by Andrei Piontkovsky, The Russia Journal, February 7-13, 2000. The title is an allusion to work "Imperialism as the last and culminating stage of capitalism" by Vladimir Lenin
  2. ^ Review of Andrei's Pionkovsky's Another Look Into Putin's Soul by the Honorable Rodric Braithwaite, Hoover Institute
  3. ^ (Congressional Statement of R. James Woolsey, Former Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, 21 September 1999, Hearing on the Bank of New York and Russian Money Laundering)
  4. ^ The Chekist Takeover of the Russian State, Anderson, Julie (2006), International Journal of Intelligence and Counter-Intelligence, 19:2, 237 - 288.

Biophys (talk) 22:32, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

It is a good paragraph. I have added this in the article. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 23:49, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Thank you. I think we can actually agree and collaborate on many subjects. I have been too apprehensive lately. Sorry.Biophys (talk) 00:21, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ranking

The Nationmasters ranking (that says Russia is 5th) is inaccurate to go by. They only rank about 60 countries, missing many of the highest ranking ones. If you check the List of countries by homicide rate list, Russia is 13th. Also regarding the 16.5 homicide figure, it's easy to calculate using the homicide number + population in 2006 (142,300,000) using this calculator. Krawndawg (talk) 11:02, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

The RIA Novosti reference does not support the claim that Russia's homicide rate is 13th highest in the world. The article List of countries by homicide rate uses this reference to support this statistics. So I think the other article has problem. Hence I removed this statistics as it is not supported by any reference.
  • The RIA Novosti reference document what officials said in news conference. Andrei Kucheryavy told "The number of killings has been gradually declining in the past four years, while the number of solved murders is increasing". Hence I have clarified the fact this was claimed by Andrei Kucheryavy. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 10:56, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I think you misunderstand. There is no article that says where Russia is ranked in the world. The current source, NationMaster, ranks Russia 5th out of only 60 countries that it lists. It's missing many countries, meaning Russia isn't actually ranked 5th. The List of countries by homicide rate article ranks every country based on individual sources, including those that NationMaster doesn't list. Krawndawg (talk) 11:02, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Ah, I missed this point. Sorry. You are right here. I removed the sentence. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 11:11, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] update

I definitely think this article warrants an update template at the top. Almost all of the information is at minimum 5 years old, a huge portion is even from the 90s. There is almost no information after 2003. This article doesn't give a good picture of what crime is like in current day Russia at all. Krawndawg (talk) 01:25, 17 April 2008 (UTC)