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[edit] cretan turks

Birkaç kullanıcı gene "çete" mentalitesiyle hareket ederek kaynak göstermeden Cretan Turks sayfasında değişiklikler yapıyor. Kendi ülkesinde ki Batı Trakyalı Türklere bile Türk demekten kaçınan bir ulustan ne beklersin. Şu anda 2. rv'ümü yaptım, 3.yü yapmıycam.--Doktor Gonzo 14:26, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Türkiye Portalı

Merhaba geçenlerde Türkiye Portalını seçkin portallara aday gösterdim Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Turkey/archive1. Fakat bir Vikiproje Türkiye üyesi dışında kimse oy kullanmadı. Gelen karşıt oylarla kabul edilmemiş oldu. Lütfen oyunuzu kullanın.--Absar 12:14, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Üzeyir Garih

Please see [[1]]. CeeGee 15:33, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merhaba

Yaptığın katkıları takdir ettiğimi öncelikle belirteyim. Yalnız bir Türlü Türklerle ilgili maddelerde ve kategorilerde ağırlığımızı koyamadık. Beşiktaşlı ünlüler kategorisi silinmiş şimdide Fenerbahçeli ünlüleri silecekler sonucu belli olan oylamalar hep açılıyor ve hepsinin sonucuda sil olarak çıkıyor. Tıpkı Türk milli takımının kadro şablonları gibi. Kısacası Türklerle ilgili herşeyi oyluyorlar ve sonunda sil sonucu çıkıyor. Sizin gibi bir iki kişi de yeterli gelmiyor. Bu bölüme daha fazla nasıl Türk çekebiliriz. Din dil ırk tuttuğu takım vs. hiç bir ayrım fark etmez yeterki Türk olsun. Biz birbirimizi yiyrouz bunlarda bizi yiyor. Türkiye portalı aday gösteriliyor yine eleniyor. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.97.47.108 (talk) 19:10, 22 January 2007 (UTC).

Anadolu denizinde boğulacaklardır. :) Cretanforever 20:27, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gulet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Gulet.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Gulet1.jpg

bu resimleri http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/gulet maddesine ekleyebilir miyiz? İznin var mı? Tr.wiki'den cevaplarsan sevinirim. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.33.204.82 (talk) 15:43, 25 January 2007 (UTC).

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[edit] Image:Turkish soldiers posing with heads of Hellenes massacred.jpg

I removed the speedy tag from Image:Turkish soldiers posing with heads of Hellenes massacred.jpg. The reason you provided is not a valid speedy deletion criteria. Regards, CHAIRBOY () 02:51, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

US troops shortly before the landing in Normandy in 1942
US troops shortly before the landing in Normandy in 1942

I received your message. May I go ahead and put this picture in a Second World War related article with a caption like, "US troops shortly before the landing in Normandy?". At one time, Turkish army uniforms had double row of buttons, but not during the Greco-Turkish War (1919-1922). If someone comes up and says, "Hey! Those uniforms are not that war!", it's a valid argument. Cretanforever 13:20, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

You don't understand. That's not a Speedy delete criteria. The proper thing to do is to fix the caption. If you're still unclear about this, then do this: Read WP:CSD. You nominated the image for Speedy deletion, and I've told you that "I think the caption of the image is wrong" is not a valid speedy delete criteria. Regards, CHAIRBOY () 15:11, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
I think the user who uploaded it should be made to understand that editing in an encyclopedia is a rather conservative exercise, and in the specific case of wikipedia, there are rules to respect as you cite yourself. It's amazing that the image is around since months. I am not the fixer or the headmaster of Kalamata primary school. I will proceed differently. Cheers. Cretanforever 16:28, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Speedy deletion is not a tool for "teaching someone a lesson". Please use care in the future, and use the correct methods for fixing problems - CHAIRBOY () 16:31, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
You read my thought and you caught my words:) I am precisely shunning away from "teaching someone a lesson". Cretanforever 16:41, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Just thought I would

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
I just wanted to give you this barnstar, as a symbol of my appreciation for your tireless and prolific work on Turkey-related articles. Khoikhoi 05:45, 8 February 2007 (UTC)


We may disagree on some things, but I wanted you to know that I am still impressed by your endless contributions. :-) Khoikhoi 05:45, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

As Voltaire/Evelyn Beatrice Hall said, "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." Khoikhoi 01:35, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Zeyrek

Hallo Cretan, I saw that you changed the name of the article about Zeyrek from Zeyrek Camii to Zeyrek Mosque. I don't know whether this is right, since on all the literature which I know about the subject (in english, above all Richard Krautheimer) the scholars call the edifice Zeyrek Camii and not Zeyrek Mosque. This is the same also for all the other Mosques of Istanbul. Ciao, Alex2006 11:56, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Armenian terrorism

I think there is enough material to start a category for Armenian terrorism. It starts with the Ottoman Bank Takeover, then there is the Yıldız Attempt, assassination of Talat Pasha, then diplomats and civilians murdered by ASALA and other Armenian organizations. I want to know what you think about the category.--Doktor Gonzo 14:36, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tenedos/Bozcaada

Hi Cretanforever, I noticed that you moved Tenedos to Bozcaada (Tenedos) a couple of days ago. The consensus on the talkpage is that the title should be Tenedos, and accordingly I have moved the page back. If you disagree with the page title, could you please start a discussion at Talk:Tenedos? Thanks. --Akhilleus (talk) 05:29, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

There is a widespread agreement, by the way, that Wikipedia should use whatever name is common usage in English, rather than official names. This is both a service to our readers, and avoids the sometimes tricky question of who counts as "official". Our naming policy is at WP:NAME. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 21:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

How's life down under PM? It's nice to know that someone worries about Tenedos down there. When the title became Bozcaada, give me a call. Cretanforever 17:40, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:OttomanCoatOfArms.png

Hi! You quoted the Turkish Wikipedia as the source, however on the Turkish image description page the quoted source is English Wikipedia. I've readded the {{no source}} tag. --Eleassar my talk 11:17, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dora Bakoyannis

Dear Cretanforever, your edit summary is completely inappropriate:

Dear Dora! Please distance Tenedos hookers to Gökçeada where they can have fun for some more time. Bugün 18 Mart, sikerim bir taraflarını.

If I'm not mistaken, the last sentence translates "Today, the 18th of March, I will fuck them both ways." What sort of edit summary is that? --Macrakis 19:13, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Your translation is wrong. Set Bozcaada article under the official name of the district. Cretanforever 09:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

  1. I see nothing relevant under Bozcaada (district).
  2. What is the correct translation?
  3. The English part is not appropriate anyway.

Best, --Macrakis 16:34, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I won't edit for some time Macrakis. Thanks for writing. I saw that they erased the edit summary anyway. Cretanforever 10:28, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Hiç güleceğim yoktu, çok yaşa emi Cretanforever ama sadece 18 Mart'la yetinmeyelim lütfen :)

What is the funny part? It is a terrible language anyway and shame on you both. Moreover, you cannot translate from Turkish to English 1-1, right? --InterEditor 21:11, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Robert College has been nominated GA

Would you like to contribute to the nomination process or peer review the article? SEE: Robert College (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) --Maestro 10:42, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Ratings

I noticed that you re-rated a bunch of random articles as top importance after you saw that I re-evaluated Tugba Karademir article. Listen, I am trying to make WPTR as efficient as possible, and that will definitely not help. Pamela Spence is not top-priority for WPTR; Ottoman Empire and Ataturk is. You know this, which makes this even more puzzling. I didn't mean any offense to Ms. Karademir with that rating, it is just that we have an immense workload for such a small number of editors. Please, it is not helping - if I have to spend my time going through importance categories instead of improving articles, that will not help anyone.. I respect your work and consider you a serious editor, so I hope you understand what I am trying to say. cheers Baristarim 03:21, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry that you feel that I was being a "kabadayi" or anything, I just would like to make it easier for any new Wikipedians interested in WPTR to navigate easily and efficiently among articles. Ratings are subjective, however Pamela Spence is not top-priority, you know this :) As for the "start" rating, that is simply a wikipedia-wide article rating system. That article was a stub - if people would like to improve, it will give them the same incentive to improve as much as a "start" rating, right? I really like your work, I didn't mean any disrespect.. Eger istemeden bir yanlisim olmussa ozur dilerim.. take care Baristarim 14:15, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Barnstar time!

The Barnstar of National Merit
For your great and consistent work in creating and improving articles about Izmir and the Aegean region, as well as Turkey-related biographies. Keep up the good work! Baristarim 03:24, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] PKK/Turkey

I tried Template:Casualties of the Turkey-PKK conflict for name of the article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Turkish-Kurdish_conflict. Now, OttomanRefence is trying.

Khoikhoi did not accept it. Khoi said that Uğur Kaymaz was a civilian Kurdish, he was killed, so it is not only PKK-Turkey conflict. But, current name Turkish-Kurdish conflict is wrong because that there is no ethnic conflict. There is a problem related to ethnic Kurdish problem but it is not directly an ethnic war. I asked the naming dispute to R.Cakır, and he said that "I think that "Turkish-Kurdish conflict" is not a good idea because it refers to some kind of civil war that does not exist yet. I would prefer 'Kurdish question (or problem, or maybe conflict) in Turkey' or Turkey's Kurdish question'. But, Khoi did not like the name because according to him not only Kurds are responsible for the conflict. He said that he would think about the name, but no suggestions came form him! I searched on the Internet, and found an article by Koç University academician Somer: "People seem to instinctively understand and fear that this time such a path may lead to a Turkish-Kurdish conflict, i.e. not only a conflict between the state and Kurdish separatists as the conflict previously was, but which involves ordinary people". from http://www.turkishpolicy.com/default.asp?show=fall_2006_somer That would be another nominee for the name: "Turkish state- Kurdish separatists conflict". Is "Turkish state - Kurdish separatists conflict" good?
If there is a voting, we should make a consensus. Any name other than current name is more suitable. But, at the last vote, people who are against the current name gave votes to different names so article's name did not change, since there were no consensus. We should refrain from this in a survey.Paparokan 11:46, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] XXX, Turkey

Dear Cretan, Now there is a standardisation for district names as; "XXX (District), Province". If we use this format for some districts and another format(like as "XXX, Turkey" for others there will be a mess, confissioning etc. Please take it into consideration. regards.Must.T C 15:16, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Konak

I am dealing just now.Thanks.Must.T C 15:25, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Oriental Sweetgum

Hi! Thanks for your note. As I noted in the edit summary, that move was because of the flora naming convention, which says:

Scientific names are to be used as page titles in all cases except the following, as determined on a case-by-case basis through discussion on the WikiProject Plants talk page:
  1. Agricultural and horticultural cases in which multiple different products stem from the same scientific name (eg. brussel sprouts, cabbage & broccoli). In such a case, a separate page with the botanical description of the entire species is preferred (eg. Brassica oleracea).
  2. Plants which are economically or culturally significant enough to merit their own page, using the common name as a title, describing their use. Example: Coffee. (A) separate page(s) with the botanical description(s) of the taxa involved, using the scientific name, is preferred.

American Sweetgum may be another candidate to be moved. It may meet the exception because of its use as an ornamental plant, but my initial decision would be to move it. Other quasi-popular ornamentals have been moved to their scientific names. The naming convention is relatively new, and we haven't made an effort to move all the pages that already exist in violation of it. What are your thoughts on moving American Sweetgum to the scientific name? Cheers --Rkitko (talk) 15:49, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

I would say that, for the naming conventions, it makes more sense to treat all the species in the genus together. I can not venture an opinion on American Sweetgum because I do not how significant the tree is, economically or culturally. Especially in the viewpoint of the people who share the same habitat as the tree of course. Regards. Cretanforever 17:07, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
True, consistency is a good goal, but some species in select genera will never be moved because they are too significant at the common name. The naming convention came about because of disagreements over which common name is most common, but some common names are so widely accepted it makes no difference if it's at the scientific name or not. Specifically, some of the hardwood trees used for furniture or other wood products are too culturally significant to move. Ultimately, I don't see much of a difference in the article title as long as there are redirects from all common names.
For consistency in each genus, we'd need someone with admin powers to move articles over redirects with more than one edit, which I often encounter. That's probably another reason the naming convention hasn't been widely implemented. Though most WP:PLANTS editors have been moving pages according to the convention when they encounter them. I found this one when I was scrolling through the bot-generated new article list for WP:PLANTS. (Nice job, by the way! It's always nice to come upon an article on that list that has the right italics, wikimarkup, taxobox, image, and a nice start-sized entry. If you ever find yourself getting too bored with your current endeavor, feel free to browse through Category:Plant articles needing taxoboxes or Category:Plant articles needing photos. That will keep us all busy for weeks!) Cheers, --Rkitko (talk) 06:00, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Redirects

When you're creating articles with diacritical symbols in the title, please be sure to create redirects for the non-diacritical version. I just had to create Ali Riza Pasha and Kibrisli Mehmed Kamil Pasha, for instance. john k 17:34, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:GirneMarina.jpg

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Thank you for your message. Cretanforever 04:54, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeni resim(ler) için tebrikler.Eline sağlık.Kolay gelsin.Must.T C 16:29, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Template:Anatolian Turkish Beyliks

Dear Cretan,

  • Please check template and supply your suggestions. I modified, a little bit, your template. I tagged to main articles also.
  • Please check Karaburun Peninsula, İzmir, new article and almost empty. I have some raw material from some web sites, do you interested in to edit?

Regards.Must.T C 15:45, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Karaburun peninsula

Dear Cretan. Some raw material in your ubpage now;User:Cretanforever/karaburun Regards.Must.T C 11:33, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

  • Replied.Check it.Must.T C 12:07, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sheikh Bedreddin

Please check artcicle when you are free; to wikify,to add material, for place names like as: Simavne, Serez. When you have time please take a trip from Balıklıova to Gerence to see the place of "massacre valley" at the last battle with Ottoman army. Regards.Must.T C 12:13, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Bedrettin'in kitap isimlerini nasıl tercüme edebiliriz.Tr ve En
  • Cami’ü’l-fusuleyn; iki kısmın toplamı??-
  • Letaifü’l-işarât; işaretlerin incelikleri/latifeleri??
  • Varidat; Kazançlar/edinimler??
  • Meserretü’l-kulûb; kalblerin şenliği/sevinci??
  • Ukudü’l-cevahir; Değerli sözlerin şartları??

Must.T C 17:22, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Şeyh Bedrettin olayı, Anadolu tarihinde önemli olaylardan biri.(Nazım Hikmet işi destansı havaya sokuyor haklısın.).Konu hakkında çok fazla araştırma yok, sanki örtbas ediliyor. Ben Varidat'ın 40-50 yıl önceki yeni türkçe bir baskısını okumuştum.Kitabı tekrar bulabilirmiyim bilemiyorum.
Bebeğin soyadı değil, adı Akalp.Grandson-(daughter tarafından).Sağol.Must.T C 21:00, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Manisa

Haber gitti. Ayrıca bakınız:[2]] Selam.Must.T C 16:48, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Ana bağlantı:[3]Must.T C 16:50, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Please take a look to ;Defterdar Mosque needs attention. Did you read Cumhuriyet today, page 15; "KULE CAMBAZI"-Sunay Akın.Must.T C 16:22, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Sunay Akın

is it possible to check and make corrections on the Sunay Akın page. Regards.Must.T C 09:22, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

I received your message Mustafa! I am gathering material for 3-4 new articles having to do with Trabzon. Cretanforever 14:49, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Turkopedia

Merhaba Cretanforever!

I want to create an encyclopedia on the Wikia website called Turkopedia. It will be in English, and will be all about everything to do with Turkey and Turkish people.

Unfortunately I need at least 20 people (including me, so there's 19 people left) to assist me in this project. Would you like to take part?

Onur 16:45, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kubadabad Palace

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[edit] Template:Archaeological site Turkey

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[edit] /Templates/Mustafa Akalp InfoboxCitiesTownsDistricts

Can Wikipedia:WikiProject Turkey/Templates/Mustafa Akalp InfoboxCitiesTownsDistricts be deleted? Andy Mabbett | Talk to Andy Mabbett 10:00, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] request

arkadaşlar merhaba, şu sıralar wikideki ermeniler iyice azıtmış durumda, türkiye ve türkler hakkındaki tüm kaynakları referanslarıyla birlikte imha çabası içerisindeler. özellikle "Turkey", "Turkish People" ve "Turkic peoples " sayfaları ve bunlar ile bağlantılı sayfalar hiç olmadığı kadar tehdit altında, türkiyenin neredeyse tüm şehirlerinin sayfalarına kendi ulusal reklamlarını eklemek üzereler. bununlada yetineyip kendileriyle hiçbir alakası olmayan "tarihteki türk uygarlıkları" ile ilgili makalelere saldırma çirkinliğinide atlamıyorlar. lütfen aşşağıdaki bu ve bunun gibi wiki bağlantılarını kullanarak bu tehdite karşı koyalım. sayıları bizden çok daha az yeterki organize olalım. saygılar

--hakozen 01:15, 28 August 2007 (UTC)


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[edit] Spil

Dear Cretan,

Resmi isim; Spil Dağı. xx Spil veya Spil xx konusunda ise Kültür Bakanlığı'nın kullanımını tercih ettim. Konu budur. değiştirilmesine karşı değilim. Eğer ilgilenirsen, Manisa Valiliği, Planlama müdürlüğü tarafından hazırlanan Manisa ile ilgili kapsamlı tanıtım kitapları var. Maalesef kaynakları sadece ekte liste olarak vermişler, metin içlerinde kaynak belirtilmemiş. İlgilenirsen ve bana posta adresini mail ile gönderebilirsen sana bir takım gönderilmesini sağlayabilirim. Selamlar. Must.T C 07:52, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of municipalities&mayors

Dear Cretan,

I created an article and related Cat. List of mayors of Turkey. All municipalities are in the list sorted alhabetically by province, by district and then municipality. You are interested in cities&towns related Templates, this list may help your works. Regards. Must.T C 17:14, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Erreur de transcription

Cher ami,

Il y a une petite erreur de transcription sur votre user page.

Let me give you the right french phrase : "Pourquoi êtes-vous ému, monsieur ? C'est moi qui devrait être ému."

I know it's hard when you don't have the right keyboard.

I also have a question for you, posted on the Kaptan-Pasha discussion page :

Writing about the on french wiki, I was looking for a biography of a Kaptan-Pasha : Kara Ali, said to have lead the expedition on Chios in april and may 1822, and died in a greek attack in june 1822. In the list, there is a gap between 1822 and 1832. No Kaptan-Pasha or no information ? Is Kara Ali a Kaptan Pasha or just a naval officer ? Thanks. You can answer there, even in english :. Cedric B. 15:47, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alanya Castle

Parti Pehlivan ! I intend to extend Alanya Castle considerably in a few days and in the article, I would like to use the spelling for the sultan to Alaeddin Keykubad I. İtirazın yoqsa tabi (if you see no inconvenient, that is...). Cretanforever 11:57, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Do what you like at Alanya Castle. I would prefer to see 'Ala al-Din Kayqubad, but do what you want. I have seen other disagreements of this type handled in a similar way. If it's okay with you, I will move this section to my talk page. Aramgar 20:27, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Why not ask Patrickneil? Aramgar 20:30, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I will ask him too and do accordingly. Thx. With the four articles on Seljuk edifices (one castle, one palace, one hospital and one mosque) more or less tidy and stable, I will edit more comfortably elsewhere. Cretanforever 04:16, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] {{Anatolian Civilizations}}

I think it should be part of {{WPTR}} (something like a workgroup of {{WPBiography}} or task force of {{WPMILHIST}}), or we should just remove {{WPTR}} when we have this. DenizTC 04:15, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Major Revision (although the mummified corpses are within reach) Revisited

Cretanforever: Once again you have replaced Alaeddin Mosque (Konya, Turkey) with an admixture of plagiarism, solecism, and irrelevant information. Rather than adding new material, you simply restored your edit of 5 September 2007 entitled “developped”. You offered no explanation for your changes in September. This time you have offered only the disingenuous “image” in the Edit Summary box. I have kept the image as a useful addition but reverted the rest. I am beginning to suspect that a good faith disagreement about the spelling of names has ballooned, in your mind at least, into a personal vendetta. I assure you this is not the case. Your colleague, Aramgar 22:59, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Turkic peoples

Hi. The image you uploded (ArdahanFolklor.jpg) is under question. I'm posting this, since you may like to comment on this. Regards. E104421 16:53, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

A specific issue is: do you know if the dancers are Turks or – as may be suspected, based on the costumes – perhaps a Georgian or other Caucasian folklore dance troupe visiting a festival taking place at Ardahan? Also, can you give the URL of a web page on which the image was found? I could not find it on www.yigitkonagi.com, and also not on www.ardahan.gov.tr.  --Lambiam 13:13, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
I will check. Cretanforever (talk) 15:46, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
there is no clearity on that and moreover I could not find the picture in the site. Ardahan is acity in turkey which was traditionally poulated by georgians, and Armenians and to a lesser extent by Azeris. Nowadays there is a population of people who call themselves Yerli Turks, whose origins go back to the Georgians, Hemshins or Islamized Armenians. There are also recently many Kurds in that area. But the dances and costumes shown here are very caucasian and resemble the dances over the borders in Georgia. All and all I think this is not a representative picture for the aim and we should find a picture which better represents Anatolian Turks. It is remarkable that there is not a picture which portrays an Anatolian/Istanbuli Turk there. We should find one and put it there. --Babakexorramdin (talk) 16:12, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Your meticulousness in accurate identification of these dancers as being part of this or that group of people within Turkey is touching. There is a prize of 4,000 pieces of gold to anyone who can arrive at the right association. I am tempted to exclaim in Turkish "Bunlar Kürt ulan!". Cheers! :) Cretanforever (talk) 04:02, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ramifications

buyur abi: I think the word you're looking for is "connections" or "associations." "Ramification" has an etymological relationship with branches but means something rather like "consequence." Your colleague, Aramgar (talk) 22:05, 22 November 2007 (UTC)


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[edit] The rock

Who is it supposed to be?--Doktor Gonzo 00:37, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Niobe.  --Lambiam 08:19, 4 December 2007 (UTC)


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[edit] Bak ne yarattım!

This user doesn't believe in Armenian fairytales and actually looks at evidence. What's that? No evidence? Ah, too bad, I guess you can't have access to the sea, now...

Güzel mi?

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[edit] Menemen massacre

Hi, I found out you created that article so I want to give you the chance to provide some reliable sources as per WP:RS for the information therein. A propagandist website like SAM doesn't really cut it nor would the opinion of military men be relevant in categorizing the events as massacres in any case. If academic quotes are not forthcoming it will be nominated for deletion. More so since the google search of "menemen massacre" only yields hits from WP so it doesn't pass the notability criteria either. Btw since you are a Turkish-Cretan which part of Create are you from and do you speak any Rhomaic at all? Xenovatis (talk) 10:05, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

I saw your edit on this article and thought you might like to contribute to this discussion.

[edit] AfD nomination of Menemen massacre

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[edit] Replaceable fair use Image:E_ozkok_big.jpg

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[edit] User talk:White Cat/Archive/2006/06#User: Clevelander

Could you please explain? You are welcome to email. :)

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[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:CecilJohnCadoux1938AncientSmyrna.jpg

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[edit] Katharine Elizabeth Dopp

Thank you for your comment. I look at the Wisconsin Historical Society website and so far I have not found anything about Katharine Elizabeth Dopp. I did change one of the categories to people from Portage County, Wisconsin from people from Wisconsin. Thank you-RFD (talk) 11:59, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

I look at the Portage County, Wisconsin Historical Society website and made some changes: Katharine Elizabeth Dopp was born in the Town of Belmont in Portage County, Wisconsin. This gets confusing in that you have the village of Belmont in Lafayette County, Wisconsin. I track down the Dopp Family Cemetery also in the Town of Belmont in Portage County, Wisconsin. I added the town website to the Town of Belmont website. Also the Marathon County Historical Society had 3 references to the Dopp Family. I hope this helps. Thank you-RFD (talk) 20:44, 18 May 2008 (UTC)


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[edit] Some small problems on List of largest flags

Hi Cretan, some anonymous user has been giving me a hard time on List of largest flags, making a lot of nationalist comments. Could you, if you have the time, look it up and help me out? I feel drowned!! --Eae1983 (talk) 21:35, 27 May 2008 (UTC)