Talk:Creem
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[edit] Original research
I had originally added this paragraph,
- A trivia note: the famous "Boy Howdy" beer-bottle logo was drawn originally by a friend of Reay, local (and unknown) artist R. Crumb, for $50; while the logo was ultimately very successful, Reay and Kramer apparently had a falling out over the price, leading to the departure of the founding editor after only the fourth issue.
as my very firstest contribution to an article, but was forced to remove it when I realized it was original research; my only source for the information is Tony Reay himself. :(
I still say it's interesting info, though. At least somebody might read it here. Eaglizard 07:58, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Versions
The original Creem from Michigan is usually considered the only true Creem Magazine. But two other versions of Creem followed the demise of the original that in one way or another are part of the Creem's history--for better or worse.
These versions were oversized and based in New York. In varying ways they were in keeping with Creem's spirit though not necessarily employing the same crop of writers.
The first version was headed by Marvin Scott Jarret who later published Raygun and now does the fashion magazine Nylon. That version was neither all that interesting or memorable. The second version, published by people who owned some adult oriented magazines, was edited by Mark Petracca. As a fan of the original Creem, and an Ohioan, Petracca tried to capture the spirit of the original Creem and was somewhat successful at it, even bringing some original Creem writers.
When Petracca was pushed out the magazine, it limped along for awhile until the pernicious publishers decided they lost interest in such a magazine and finally folded it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.173.11.48 (talk • contribs) 05:35, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Formatting
ATTN: Cyrus XIII: Would you PLEASE quit changing the CREEM name to lower-cased Creem? I was an editor at CREEM for seven years. Upper-cased is the way it's supposed to be. Every editor and every writer who ever worked there would tell you this. It was an edict from publisher Barry Kramer and writers/editors were very conscious of this from the magazine's origins through to its demise. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.255.2.26 (talk) 20:27, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
- Consistent use on its own behalf does warrant an exception from the Manual of Style (specifically WP:MOS-CL#All caps and WP:MOS-TM). Given that this issue is still not resolved, I have put in for a third opinion. - Cyrus XIII 09:01, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Third Opinion Cyrus is right. See for example Time (magazine) instead of TIME (magazine). Basically, the opinion of the editors and writers does not matter at all for the title of the article. A lead section as Time's would best suit this article (Creem (whose trademark is capitalised CREEM)) ... User:Krator (t c) 09:33, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
