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The line removed that stated that it should be noted that the champions were named retroscpectively or claimed by other schools is true to some extent, but not all non-AP titles and this line served to do nothing more than demean Pitt's exisiting 9 titles. It is not really noteworthy due to the fact there are many shared titles and none of them, even today's, are official because the NCAA does not recognize or reward national titles in Division 1A football. In fact, internet research of football from those years, including the Pitt digital archive, shows that Pitt was recognized as the best in the nation during many of those years despite there not being a yearly National Championship awarding body (such as the AP and UPI became). So, Pitt's claim may come from retrospective sources compiled by a 1970 Sports Illustrated study, but it was considered the best team in the nation during those years (with the exception of 1934 which could easily be swapped for the non-Pitt-claimed but generally recognized title of 1910 to maintain a total of 9 championship seasons.). See this page and the discussion behind it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitt_Panthers

The other line removed, that Pitt claims titles from other sources like the 80 and 81 computer polls, is simply not true. Pitt makes no claims to those titles.

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[edit] Thanks for the pictures

Thanks for the good work on behalf of Pitt and and Oakland and Pittsburgh taking pictures of campus buildings and uploading chancellor portraits, etc. They help the articles immensely.Rudowsky 01:20, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template:University of Pittsburgh

Hi. I've responded on the Talk page. --Dynaflow babble 05:44, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hail to Pitt

Thanks for educating me about school fight songs. I wasn't aware that there were so many articles about them. In my several months of patrolling, this is the first time I have seen a fight song article. You are correct. There is sufficient precedent and my tagging it for delete was in error. I apologize. Thanks. Truthanado (talk) 03:39, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pitt

For some reason I thought they rid themselves of "Pitt" a few years ago. I was wrong, sorry about the edits to those pages. -UWMSports (talk) 04:50, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Barco Law Building

I guess I always assumed it was concrete, but come to think of it I guess I'm not entirely sure. I've removed the offending clause from the article, keeping only the part about it being an example of Brutalist architecture, which it certainly is. Thanks for keeping me on my toes!MarritzN (talk) 17:58, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pitt football seasons

I'm currently working on redoing the season by season results from the Pitt football article. I'm working on it in my sandbox, hoping to move it into the mainspace after completion. Perhaps you could check it out here and let me know what you think.
P.S. - Big East champs feels soooo good!
Thanks! Grsz 11 03:26, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

If the highest ranks were reliable, I would have no problem putting them in. There just seemed so little that I wasn't sure if it was accurate. As for the titles, as you can see, I just went with the one's that the other guy had there, I think they were just the one's Pitt claims. I initially thought I would differentiate between different sources that gave Pitt the championship, but realized I had no clue what some of them were (Montgomery, Libby, etc.) I made sure to note which were consensus, but other than that, I really didn't know what to use. Grsz 11 17:10, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Let me know what you think now that I've incorporated more championships, as well as both ranks. Grsz 11 01:49, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pitt basketball

Now I'm working on the basketball seasons, and it's actually pretty difficult. I'm linking to the tournaments each year, as well as the other teams. I'll keep working on it, but won't put it up until after the end of the tournament, with hopefully a National Championship (Bob Knight thinks so). Check it out, here. Grsz 11 00:06, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Thanks for your comments

  • I am glad that my views could help your College from being deleted. I firmly believe that a a double-standard is currently being applied to some select institutions on Wikipedia. The Ivy League institutions are allowed every leeway in the book, whereas the Major Research Universities get judged far more harsly then these other highly prestigious institutions. This is not only grossly unfair, but it is also undemocratic taboot. I pledge to defend all Major Research Universities, and they deserve the same playing field as the Ivy League schools.

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[edit] Pitt falcolns

Hey, I'm considering creating an article for the falcons in the Cathedral. They'll receive national recognition when the Cathedral appears on John Ratzenberger's Made in America on the Travel Channel. I'm gonna do some research when I get around to it. Here's an article I saw today that gave me the inspiration. Let me know what you think, as well as if you have any additional information. Thanks, Grsz11 21:24, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Oakland zoo

The wording may have been a joke, but the bias ends there (otherwise I'd want all Pitt and Penn State articles everywhere speedied). I will otherwise be objective about why I endorse the article the way I do. The papers may be major, but they're still Pittsburgh papers covering Pittsburgh stories, the same as any other local paper covers the local university.

I'll save further debate for the AfD. Go Mountaineers! :) DarkAudit (talk) 04:37, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I really need to get to sleep, but I'll leave you with this. The ESPN and SI mentions will carry more weight than any blog (Even from the Washington Post. Mention the word "blog" and the AfD crew will WP:RS you to death.) or stories from the Pittsburgh papers. You're welcome to nominate other student sections for AfD, but you'd better be real sure that the articles don't pass notability or sourcing guidelines first. You don't want to be hit with accusations of WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS or WP:POINT because the Zoo article is in AfD. Don't let them think you're nominating out of spite. Keep it strictly business. DarkAudit (talk) 05:13, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Paco, I've responded to you on my talk page. BroadSt_Bully [talk] 15:52, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Also, in an ongoing effort to "protect" student section pages, I proposed adding a "student section" paramater to the info box that appears on all college basketball team articles. The problem is I don't understand how the coding works for it. :-) BroadSt_Bully [talk] 16:12, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I live in northern VA and am lucky enough to have tickets to Game 2 in DC. For your sake, I hope you lose to another team before we have to set up your tee times yet again. :-) BroadSt_Bully [talk] 22:57, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I've just created a category for college basketball student sections. You can access it at the bottom of the Zoo or Nation page. Currently I've found 13 articles. BroadSt_Bully [talk] 20:40, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] my bad

I haven't actually dealt with someone trying to delete an article for poor reasons. I guess he goes to WVU ha ha Superbowlbound (talk) 02:48, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Nationality Rooms

I may be able to help flesh out this page... I started the Cathedral of Learning page back in 2004, and am a former guide for the Nat Rooms, plus I'll be back in Pgh for five weeks this summer. I have most of the training materials somewhere.... I'll see if I can't add some stuff during what free time I have from Grad school. Nice work on Pitt stuff! Lyellin (talk) 14:50, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

How complete do you feel the Pitt infobox is? In the back of my head I'm thinking of compiling all the Pitt articles into a pdf ala Wikireaders, but have not recently checked through all the articles. Do you feel your to-do list is pretty complete? Lyellin (talk) 17:57, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
In addition, it looks like you started work on a University of Pittsburgh Wikiproject? Is that happening? Lyellin (talk) 18:07, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
So let's see here. On the simple items - I wouldn't start a wikireader (a thing from years ago basically putting a bunch of articles from one topic in a pdf to be printed out in little book form - think a 90 page little thing on Pitt to hand out to people made from WP articles), until a to-do list had been made and worked on. This is why I was asking about the wikiproject - if there is one, I'd def be involved. That being said, I'm in grad school in DC (I'm from Philly as well - Bucks County, but went to undergrad at Pitt), so I can only do a bit at a time around schoolwork. I'd love to be involved if you start it. In terms of the list of what you have to do, I've already got some ideas for a couple, and will be at Pitt for 5 weeks doing a summer language institute, so I may be able to get some pictures going of things that still need them. If we can get a wikiproject going, get a to-do list going, and get a list of articles to work towards good and featured status, I'll hopefully be much more useful then. Lyellin (talk) 19:43, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pictures

Sure, I enjoy taking pictures, and I will often just snap one whenever I happen to see something interesting. Especially all the artwork hanging around Pitt.

Are there any buildings around Pitt that still need an outside shot? Do you think that inside shots (maybe of the lobby or typical classroom) add much to an building article? I tried to take a few classrooms pics, but they looked terrible. Any Oakland or other Pittsburgh landmarks that need pictures? I'm relatively new to wikipedia, so I'm not sure where there is a lack of coverage.

On another note, what do you think of starting a Pitt wikiproject? I have no idea what that would entail, but I see lots of school have one. --Shizzy9989 (talk) 19:50, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I definitely agree with your thoughts on keeping the Pitt photos appealing. I have a mid-grade camera, and I'm still trying to learn the different controls, so I hope my pictures get better...Let me know if there's some that work especially well, or some that could be re-shot. I'd like to nominate some for good photo designation.
I'll try to get some better outside shots of buildings once the trees have leaves. Maybe I'll even try to replicate/replace some of the photos that are already on the pages. (Editorial comment: I think the Hillman/Barco/Posvar/Lawrence/Towers buildings are hideously designed. They look fascist to me.) I'm relatively new to the area, so if you want to keep a list of things that could use pictures, I can just hop on my bike and take a bunch at once. I'll hit up the Cathedral for the nationality rooms, too. Also, if there's a professional photo you want me to mimic, just send me a link to it, and I'll see what I can do.
I'll definitely help out with a Wikiproject for Pitt. I don't know enough to take the lead on it, but I'll help out.
I took a few pics today, and I would like your thoughts on them. They didn't turn out quite like I had hoped. Maybe there's something from them that can be salvaged through cropping or retouching? Image:BarcoEntrance.JPG Image:BarcoEntrance2.JPG Image:BarcoEntrance3.JPG Image:BarcoEntrance4.JPG Image:BarcoEntrance4.JPG. I'm not sure that there's even a good angle from which to take these. Also, is there a place for this picture? Image:BridgeOverForbesAvePitt.jpg. I was just trying to mess with my night settings. --Shizzy9989 (talk) 02:25, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

--Shizzy9989 (talk) 02:25, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I like the night shot thing. Do you know of a good website or resource that can give me the basics about photography? Either about the aesthetics (like how to compose a shot) or the mechanics (like what the heck an f-number is and how to use it).--Shizzy9989 (talk) 20:59, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Hey, I have to take a semi-retirement from wikipedia for a while. You know, sometimes you just have to take a break from wikipedia or it consumes your entire being. Here's what I was working on: Wikipedia:PITT/Infobox Template:Cleanup-Pitt Template:Pitt-stub. Hope the wikiproject can use them. Will probably return by summertime.--Shizzy9989 (talk) 05:00, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your question regarding the number of schools.

We do have 17 schools, and the CBA and Katz graduate school are separate. I looked into and found that Falk School was listed in the template but not on the University page. Turns out it is a k-8 school, and not part of the University of Pittsburgh. Superbowlbound (talk) 21:44, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, i would guess it goes under miscellanea also, I just removed it from the template because it wasn't a college within the University. If a Pitt project starts up I would like to be a part of it. Superbowlbound (talk) 22:15, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] College games at PNC Park

Hey, thanks for the links. I'm working on a rough draft in my sandbox. I was wondering if you knew about any other high school or college games played there. I would be suprised if there have not been, I know Heinz Field has hosted high school games, but I don't really know where to look. Any info you (or any other Pittsburgher on here) have would be helpful, because at this point four college games is interesting, but not really that note-worthy; I have a peer review set up for the article (which should happen sometime this weekend) I could ask him what he thinks after he's done his thing. Thanks! Blackngold29 (talk) 23:59, 17 April 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Nationality rooms

I know that Quo Vadis, the tour guides, are taught that at least the French room does not fit this role - it is actually modeled after a style after the 1789 date. That being said, I'm drawing this again from materials I don't have with me, and my memory of being a tour guide (yea, still tracking those down, damnit. Guy doesn't know where they are, so I may have them hidden somewhere). Anyways, feel free to have it removed till I can confirm it with a source. Lyellin (talk) 01:49, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

I need to check further - There may be one more, but I don't think so. Pretty sure it's just the french room that doesn't qualify. Lyellin (talk) 02:58, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
About that, I may have some information: Image:Cathedral Plaque.jpg and Image talk:Cathedral Plaque.jpg. Hope it helps. --TheZachMorrisExperience (talk) 05:57, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] School of Medicine

Thanks for the suggestion. First time contributor – many times reader! I’m not family with adding the listing to the Univ Pitt page. I am following the Wikiproject Universities guidelines in hopes to be labeled as a “good article.” Any help is greatly appreciated. Mezzlevel (talk) 18:40, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Woodling/Busbey coaches

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[edit] it's fine~

Dude, Chill, it's a common story told at the Cathedral, but if it's not true, it's not true, and it's good to get it out of there! I'm not insulted, hurt, upset, or anything else. I just wanted to ensure that my memory of it (and giving the story on tours), was not actually based on something. As all of my books don't mention it, it's out, and that's fine! Heh. It's completely cool. It's done, it's fixed, and Wikipedia has been copied so many times, with so many mistakes - you do what you can. We can't deal with people reporting sloppily, just make sure our own stuff is accurate. Sorry I haven't been around much to be working on things, but I'm glad to tie up this loose end. Lyellin (talk) 21:39, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

We're entirely on the same page, and I completely respect you for all the work you've done - you got me lurking and editing on WP again, and that says something, so yes, everythings fine. Lyellin (talk) 03:59, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Pictures?

Hello. I found a few pictures from a while back that might be useful for the List of Pitt Buildings. I am not sure how you are organizing that page, so here are the photos and you can see where they best fit. (Epidemiology? and Information Technology? and "Off-campus Housing office"? and Bellefield Towers) I'm not sure of the title of the first three buildings are, so I added what I could recollect). Thanks! --TheZachMorrisExperience (talk) 05:27, 8 June 2008 (UTC)(formerly User:Shizzy9989)


Hey, May I have your aesthetic opinion on something? I find myself taking pictures of historical markers and plaques when I am out taking photos. They help me remember what I just took a picture of, and they often provide a good source of basic information if the article is lacking. But my question is: Do you think they are generally worthy of placement in the article itself? An example: Would these add or detract to the Roberto Clemente Bridge article: Image:RobertoClementePoem.JPG & Image:RobertoClementeHistoricalMarker.JPG.