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This needs rewriting - it is basically a copy vio [1] with a few pronouns changed. The JPS 14:27, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 University ratings 2 Motto 3 Picture Move 4 Neutrality

[edit] University ratings

(I'm posting this to all articles on UK universities as so far discussion hasn't really taken off on Wikipedia:WikiProject Universities.)

There needs to be a broader convention about which university rankings to include in articles. Currently it seems most pages are listing primarily those that show the institution at its best (or worst in a few cases). See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Universities#University ratings. Timrollpickering 22:38, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree. See neutrality discussion below as well. Million_Moments (talk) 18:00, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

The Cranfield tag is unjustified - all comments are referenced to external neutral sources. Of course they are selective. You seem to have some anti -Cranfield neutrality. Please remove the tag.

You can't just put up good ratings. You need to include all ratings. See what is linked above. I am not anti-Cranfield I looked it up the other day when it was on BBC News and it seemed obvious to me this article is not written in a neutral tone. Million_Moments (talk) 14:12, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Motto

Cranfield themselves appear to be translating Post Nubes Lux as "After darkness, light" - see the bottom of The Arms of the University.

"After clouds, light" appears to be an alternative (more correct?) translation but do we go with the one the university uses itself or the literal?

The University of Kent has a similarly ambiguous motto "Cui servire regnare est" which is literally "whom to serve is to reign" but the prayer book translation (which is the reason why it was picked) is "whose service is perfect freedom". Both are displayed on that article - maybe that's the way forward? Timrollpickering 15:46, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Tom - I agree, however the VC at Graduation gives the correct translation and it irks me that even the University website is incorrect. Perhaps we should lobby the University to get the translation correct. It seems very poor that the University cannot get it correct - there is only one translation to the latin Post nubes lux as a variety of sources and my latin text book teach me. This is very reminiscent of 'The life of Brian' although someone is updating many of the corrections I am putting in without checking sources - e.g. Cranfield is 10 miles from MK and Bedford not 5 - has this person not had the forethought to actually check figures. Also he should check the HESA website were all teh data regarding destinations is recorded - the new value is actualy 94.7%. It is, it seems to me, important to have some details that can be factually tested actually correct on the page. However, I do have better things to do than correct for some idiot who seems to be hell bent on ensuring that 'vandalism' is synonomous wiht fact.

[edit] Picture Move

I have moved all the pictures to the Wikimedia Commons. This is something that should be done with all freely licensed pictures to enable them to be used by other Wiki projects and others. (Wikipedia is not an image store and is only supposed to hold fair use images that are not to be made available elsewhere.) These moved pictures are then deleted from the Wikipedia to save space. Unfortunately the last picture had a poor name, one probably generated by the camera; such names are strongly discouraged on the Commons, so I changed it to something more descriptive. I then needed to change this page (and any any other pages that might use it, in this case none) to point to that new file name, allowing the old named file to be deleted. I hope this explains everything: no pictures have been lost, they are all safe on the Commons. --Simon Speed 22:24, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Neutrality

Tagged this article for neutrality, it seems to portray the university in an overly good light. For example, see discussion above about university ratings. The first section that contains these ratings reads like a list of everything that is wonderful about Cranfield and this isn't very encylopedic. Million_Moments (talk) 18:00, 28 May 2008 (UTC)