Talk:Covenant (Halo)

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[edit] Question

Is The Fall of Reach a novel that is set before the events of Halo: Combat Evolved? If not, what is it? hbdragon88 09:57, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Never mind, a ref shows that it is a novel. Could it stated in the text somewhere that it is a novel to make the perspective more out-of-universe? hbdragon88 09:59, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Nobleambitions-It is a novel, written by Eric Nylund and is set AFTER Halo 1, and BEFORE Halo 2. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.180.191.60 (talk) 15:40, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Uh, no. Fall of Reach is not set after Halo 1. The whole point behind the novel is that it covers the destruction of Reach, which takes place prior to the first Halo game. Peptuck (talk) 19:35, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Merger of Covenant vehicles

It seems unlikely that the vehicles article can stand on its own in terms of referencing and notability, so it should be merged in here. Judgesurreal777 23:18, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. Peptuck 00:29, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Also agreed, and I'm doing it within 24 hours unless someone objects. Equazcion /C 14:54, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
Okay so I did it now. Hope no one was planning on objecting. Equazcion /C 15:04, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] To-do for this article

I'd really like to get this up to FA at some point. Way I see it, these are what we should try and do:

  • cut down on plot- try and shrink everything in 'appearances' to 1-2 paragraphs, max.
  • needs a reception section; this might be a little hard to find, but at least there's plenty of merchandise to write about.
  • Species: ugh. Long, but splitting it off into a seperate article seems like a bad idea. How about we try for a two paragaph format for each (besides the Elites, they have their own page); one paragraph of in-universe, followed by creation or comments on the species in general; stuff like designs for the species in The Art of Halo, etc.

Thoughts? David Fuchs (talk) 01:44, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

The species system definitely could be shunted into its own article, or at least trimmed; that and some trimming of the rest of the article would do the job, I think. What do you think we could put into Reception, though? Master of Puppets Care to share? 01:50, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
That's what would be the hardest part of the article; Searching for 'halo covenant reception' and the like turns up only general reviews. But I don't think the article can stand as well without it. David Fuchs (talk) 01:54, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
I think it would be difficult to do a general reception for the article, as I'm guessing that different species got different reactions (for example, the flying guys were annoying while hunters presented a challenge). I'll try to look around for some reviewers who talk about the covenant. Master of Puppets Care to share? 01:57, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

No, it should focus more on 'appearances' more than anything else.-teh n00b. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.164.25.208 (talk) 20:48, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Species split?

I'm ready to devote some time to grabbing the out of universe details for the Covenant, and it seems to make more sense (as much as I loath splitting articles) to spin off the species into something like Species of the Covenant or something along those lines. It will streamline this article much more, and I feel that there is enough real-world info for all the Covenant so that WP:FICT concerns won't be a problem. Thoughts? David Fuchs (talk) 22:33, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

But wouldn't that leave us with a simmilar dillema on the new article? - Caribbean~H.Q. 23:06, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
How so? David Fuchs (talk) 23:13, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Won't we end up with another article with no out of universe material? - Caribbean~H.Q. 00:59, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Hardly. I can throw in the Art of Halo design influences for the Brutes, the Halo 3 vidoc, Joseph Staten commenting on how weird it is to play a game populated by enemy 'hims' and gunning them down, et al. I'll prolly draft it in userspace before I commit to a split, but I'm pretty certain we can make a decent article of it. David Fuchs (talk) 02:41, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I might be able to help with it since I expect to be more active next month, cheers. - Caribbean~H.Q. 03:00, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deleted Something

I deleted:

     Critical impact
     Merchandise
     Critical reception

Because they contained nothing at all, feel free to add them back in with info included. AP Shinobi (talk) 17:20, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Group shot?

Can someone find an image featuring most of the Covenant together? (Elites aren't a concern as they have their own article.) Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 12:36, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Theres no ingame shot and any image would be made by bingie for that single purpose or photoshoped.--Jakezing (talk) 03:59, 10 June 2008 (UTC)