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[edit] UT maps

Both done. Glad to be of help. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 19:45, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] USRD Newsletter - Issue 3

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[edit] FYI....

There were a couple of problems with your most recent changes to Utah State Route 68. I suggest you revert, or at least we discuss this.

  1. it is a violation of WP:MOS to put wikilinks in the section headings. This is the most important to fix, before a more militant editor starts hacking away at it.
  2. Also per the MOS section headings shouldn't be changed without reason, this has the potential to break internet and wikilinks to the article.
  3. Google Maps/Google Earth is not a good source for Major intersections, in this specific case. Google Maps for the Salt Lake City area does not show city limits and could not be used to determine which side of a city limit an intersection would fall on. There are also numerous errors with Google Maps. I found several just in my research for SR-201. The source used before (an atlas) was perfectly valid. I strongly doubt you actually used Google Maps as a source as the data required is simply not there.
  4. Using the junction templates only makes the coding easier, it is not a requirement to use them. If they cause problems (like the lack of support for references, when a reference is needed) they should not be used. In this case I would argue they should not be used, as sources were used for this table, but the templates do not support adding sources. In other words, as a rule of thumb, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Thanks for your help on Utah highways. I'm not trying to tear apart the quality of your work. Just pointing out a few problems with this most recent change. And again stating at a minimum the first should be fixed ASAP. Thanks again for you help. Please take this message in the spirit intended. Davemeistermoab (talk) 02:13, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for not taking offense at that. I don't want to loose an editor =-). I'm not familiar with the capabilities of the Jct templates. I'm used to doing it oldschool. What you can do, is just replace template Jcttop with the column headers as they were before (manually created) and keep everything else. I've done that before.
As for sources. Udot has the official highway map in pdf format that is pretty good on their website. I use it, where I can on my more recent edits. I'd use that, because its both official and available on the web. I have Benchmark's atlas for Utah (if you couldn't have guessed) It's very good, although It also has a couple of errors (still showing old route numbers, etc.). I would be more than happy to look up any specific question. A print atlas is perfectly fine as a source.
Cheers Davemeistermoab (talk) 04:36, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
FYI, the map is here http://www.udot.utah.gov/main/f?p=100:pg:2117854713443240831::::V,T:,346 Davemeistermoab (talk) 02:58, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Just remember to state it something like "UDOT has proposed numbering this road SR-67." Then use the map as a source. The problem with Utah is the numbers are technically assigned by the legislature, so it isn't officially SR-67 until the law changes. With that said, from what I've seen the way it really works is UDOT does the work and the law catches up later.Davemeistermoab (talk) 01:23, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Also, yes, I stated a goal almost a year ago to get 2 articles to GA and 1 to FA. I've given up on one of the GA's due to the lack of reliable sources. But yes, It takes up most of my time. I hardly work on any other articles anymore. I intend to finish what I started, but after that I think I'll be happy with B class articles, much less bureaucracy. =-) Davemeistermoab (talk) 01:34, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

BTW, nice pics Davemeistermoab (talk) 02:16, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
I wouldn't put another pic on Utah State Route 128, it's pretty full. Now if you feel you have a better pic the one thats currently used, you're free to replace it. However, I think that one of the scenic byways sign would be a perfect addition to Utah Scenic Byways and if you don't add it, I will =-)Davemeistermoab (talk) 02:25, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Either or, your pic is definitely better than the one I put up. On my monitor it looks like that article could hold about 2 more pics. If you are going to edit the page I'd take out the 200px stuff for the existing images.Davemeistermoab (talk)

[edit] Your edits to Interstate 15

Hey, I saw your back and forth with User:TwinsMetsFan about weather US 95 in Las Vegas should or should not be in the major intersections list for I-15. Just so you know, The long interstate articles often get spammed with people adding every junction from their hometown. Unfortunately, this has caused many in the WP:USRD project to become very protective of them. It shouldn't be that way, but it is. I was privy to such an edit war myself a few years ago on the U.S. Route 50 page that got ugly (someone put US 93 at Ely as a major junction, which caused me to break out laughing). Anways, I've worked with TMF and have found him to be a reasonable editor. I would suggest to state your reasons on the talk page, and hopefully you two can work out a deal. It's been my experience that is the only way to get a junction changed for a border to border or coast to coast route. People just get too protective of them otherwise, for right or wrong.Davemeistermoab (talk) 05:20, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for cleaning up List of minor state routes in Utah. That was on my get around to it list, but I totally forgot about it. Well done. Dave (talk) 02:47, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I think if the page is empty, redirecting it to List of Utah state highways would be the best solution.Dave (talk) 03:00, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Dude, you're on fire these days. Way to go. FYI, you're not giving yourself enough credit. A "stub" is a short article (usually only a paragraph or two) that somebody freely admits is not much value in its current state. If you've got a route description, history, and major junctions guide, that's way more than a stub, either start or B class depending on how good of a mood the person who rates your article is. Most of these articles don't need the stub template on the page. =-) Dave (talk) 02:58, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

What I usually do is find somebody that currently editing articles and trade, I'll assess yours if you assess mine. You can request reassessment by putting the field |reassess=yes in the US road project template on the talk page, but it may sit for a few days until somebody checks Category:U.S. Roads project articles needing reassessment (which is what that flag does, lists the article in this category). Keep in mind that there are 2 different rating scales. Stub, Good Article and Featured Article are wikipedia wide ratings. Start, B and A, are additional grades used by the most wikiprojects, including the US Road Project. B is the highest rating a single person can assign, anything higher requires a review. More or less it works like this:
  • Stub: just a paragraph or two, only provides basic information, anybody wanting real information would need to do additional research
  • Start: Has sub headings, covers the basics, major claims and numbers are sourced.
  • B: The basic structure is in place for the wikiproject list of what a complete article should have. For U.S. Roads this means has a lead paragraph, route description, history, and major junctions list. Basic info is sourced.
  • GA: Well sourced, verifiable content, grammatically correct, stays on topic. etc.
  • A: Article is comprehensive (i.e. not likely to find more information from any other source) grammatically correct, has images, stable content.
  • FA: Judged to be one of the best articles on the subject anywhere, considered wikipedia's finest work.

Cheers, Dave (talk) 05:10, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Just use the reassessment flag, then leave me a message if I or anybody else hasn't answered in a few days. Another method to see if another editor is online and ask for a assessment is to use WP:IRC, which is a pain to get up and running, but works well once you get it running.Dave (talk) 02:05, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re-promotion of Utah State Highways wikiproject

I have proposed resurrecting the Utah State Highways Wikiproject here Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. Roads/Subprojects. I think the decision hinges on are the editors currently working on Utah road article planning to stay, or do we plan to move on to other interests (which is fine, just need to know how many plan to stick around). You've done some great work on Utah roads articles recently, if you would like to opine, please do so.Dave (talk) 05:47, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] USRD Newsletter, Issue 4

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[edit] Be careful with the history section

CountryLemonade, Great work again. Thanks for helping to create articles. One thing you might want to watch for, and I've caught myself doing it, too, so I'm not on a high horse here. In Utah State Route 171 the history says the following "When it was formed in 1935, it went from SR-1, present day Interstate 15," Interstate 15 didn't exist in 1935, it was built in the late 1960's. SR-1 would have been routed on state street, same as US-89 and (then) US-91.Dave (talk) 19:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Never mind, I get what you were trying to say. Sorry, I'm slow. I did tweak the wording a little though. again my apologies.Dave (talk) 19:23, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox

Oops - you edited Template:Infobox road/Interstate shield, which Template:Infobox road/UT Interstate shield redirected to. I've fixed it. --NE2 21:49, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Have to admit, now that the template has changed, I like it. Good job. Dave (talk) 06:42, 4 June 2008 (UTC)