Talk:Counting of the Omer

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The counting of the omer is not really a holiday except for the beginning (Passover), the end (Shavuot) and the 33rd day (Lag Baomer). It is more like a Jewish tradition/commandment. So why is it listed under holidays? Smartyshoe 13:56, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Good point. If you look at the article on Jewish holidays, you'll see that the fast days and even Tisha B'Av, the saddest day of the year, are also classified as "holidays." Perhaps that term makes them more understandable to non-religious and non-Jewish readers, since why else would you celebrate or commemorate anything? Yoninah 14:20, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

The sefira counter for this page is a couple days out of date, how do we fix that?

I updated it -- the way to fix it is by editing this page: Template:Omer_counter -- Amazins490 03:21, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Counting of the Omer - Sola Scriptura or Tradition as dictated by a hierarchy?

Are the definitions provided by and within the written Torah to be accepted for what they are or is everyone but a self-select few to succumb to a more or less random set of definitions or doctrines dictated by tradition as interpreted by those same self-select few?

A good example illustrating the above question is my very brief entry on "19 April 2008" under Counting of the Omer / Source providing first a fundamental Torah definition of a key word, i.e. "ממחרת" and secondly a reference to how the Torah instructions were being applied 2000 years ago as recorded in Greek manuscripts originally most likely written in Hebrew by the Jewish scholar and Pharisee Paul aka. Saul. In order to make available to the interested reader some more relevant context and a discussion re this same subject matter a link to an outside prepublished article was also supplied:"

"Cf. also the first occurrence of "ממחרת" in the Torah (Genesis 19:24) and the timing of this event as reflected by Acts 21:27 in the most original language available.[1]"

Unfortunately, the day following my original edit I found my contribution edited out by someone apparently believing him or herself having been given the rights and responsibilities of a censor. I believe my brief edit was and is very much an edit in harmony with the fundamental spirit and intent of Wikipedia's stated aims as published in the left hand column link entitled “About Wikipedia:”

“Visitors do not need specialized qualifications to contribute, since their primary role is to write articles that cover existing knowledge; this means that people of all ages and cultural and social backgrounds can write Wikipedia articles. Most of the articles can be edited by anyone with access to the Internet, simply by clicking the edit this page link. Anyone is welcome to add information, cross-references or citations, as long as they do so within Wikipedia's editing policies and to an appropriate standard...”

Yes, said censor is providing his or her basis for removing my edit (Cf. history:)

"Source: removing uninformative reference to self-published source."

The external link provided in my edit is clearly not intended as the basis or authority for either of the Hebrew Scriptures (or Greek translation) being referenced or for the concept conveyed by those same passages.

Although my link to an outside article does provide additional thought to my brief entry it is in no way necessary to support it, and if the Wikipedia censors feels that said link is "uninformative" and not in harmony with Wikipedia's policy I can accept that said link of mine is edited out while leaving the rest of my edit intact as originally entered.

Except as above noted, unless my original edit and this entry of mine is rebutted while providing good cause I find the censoring of my original edit being contrary to the spirit and intent of Wikipedia's stated aims and my original edit must be allowed as originally entered.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - -Tree of Life Time (TLT)^Talk 22:51, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

While this last post is apparently being ignored here it is in effect being followed up here.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - -Tree of Life Time (TLT)^Talk 17:03, 25 April 2008 (UTC)