Talk:Counter-smack

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For a December 2004 deletion debate over this page see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Counter-smack

  • Counter-smack is a valid definition of what many people go through when they play online games. It would be a shame to delete it, as it could become a very real problem in the near future. Even today, many people are experiencing difficulties balancing school, work, and online gaming.
  • It's silly to ignore internet culture. Terms like 1337 (leet) and others are invading pop culture as we speak, and any real encyclopedia won't ignore this. Deleting this would be an error as egregious as when Wikipedia deleted the term "nubsauce". Damn you all to hell for ignoring internet culture.

[edit] Please do not delete

Please do not delete this article without some deliberation and discussion. It's not as if we're adding this term merely to be assholes, it's a real term emerging within the game of counter-strike itself and is used by THOUSANDS of players everyday. As a player of counter-strike who often plays for 8 or more hours per day, I can attest to this fact.

In addition, it cannot be ignored that counter is still the MOST POPULAR GAME IN THE ENTIRE WORLD. Check the statistics on valve's website, but amongst true internet users, not stuck-up wikipedia editors who have no knowledge of the digital world, it is widely known that counter-strike will continue to dominate rising internet culture. If wikipedia continues to arbitarily ban informations without any consideration at all, what will the encyclopedia be reduced too? Bush supporters and people who love 7th heaven?

Take the tenets of free speech on the internet seriously. That's all I ask. Give us some time for discussion.


The Article is quite relevant to a problem that has consumed a generation. It's important that it be discussed so that a solution may be found.

[edit] IMPORTANT

Relax. We have 5 days for discussion on whether or not to delete it. Wikipedia deals with article deletion a lot, and we're not going to get rid of it right away. The Wikipedia community is currently debating the deletion of this article at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Counter-smack. Please discuss this there. [[User:Livajo|力伟|☺]] 04:09, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Unaddressed concerns

I repeat my unaddressed concern expressed in the VfD: Is there any independent evidence that "Counter-smack" is used outside of Wikipedia to refer to Counter-Strike? What actual text can be salvaged from this article? Counter-Strike can be used as an example of video game addiction, but the current text is made up nonsense. --Mrwojo 19:49, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

  • Why was this article even kept? The VfD entry had a majority of people voting delete, and the rest voted merge (not merge and redirect mind you). [[User:Livajo|Ливай | ☺]] 09:03, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Well, it seems one person did vote merge and redirect, but still the article has no factual basis and there is no evidence whatsoever that the term even exists, so I've deleted all the pseudo-medical nonsense and tried to wikify what was left. [[User:Livajo|Ливай | ☺]] 09:08, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)