Talk:Count Zero
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This page is linking to a full copy of the book, copy wish i think is ilegal to distribute in most countries, what's wikipedia's policy about this ?
I guess this is technically legal, but probably not what Wikipedia should be encouraging. DJ Clayworth 17:27, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Are you talking about the link to the sample chapter at Gibson's own website? If he wants to give away a bite of the book as a loss-leader, that's his privilege. It's certainly not a copyright infringement. --Michael K. Smith 04:37, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] "Explanation of the novel's title" - by someone who didn't read it
A frontleaf of the book states that it comes from "count zero interrupt", an interrupt that triggers the decrementing of the counter to zero. Whoever wrote here that the counter reaches zero thus exiting the loop must not have read that. The text of this article should be changed OR deleted, because what's written is backward: Instead of a zero count terminating a loop, a loop termination that sets the count to zero is what's intended by the novel's author. 198.49.180.40 00:11, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
- Can anyone actually point to a use of the term "count zero interrupt" in computer architecture, or did Gibson make up the term himself? If he made it up, then not only is there no point in arguing over the details, but we should mention in the article that it's not a real term. Alternatively, "count zero" could refer to a real concept in computer architecture, but Gibson could have misinterpreted it when he wrote his book. (Similar case: Neal Stephenson's referring in Snow Crash to "a bios, a Built-In Operating System" — when that's not what BIOS stands for.)
- So, can anyone find an attestation for "count zero interrupt" that predates Gibson's book? --Quuxplusone (talk) 05:35, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
- Don't worry, I'm not "worked up" about it. You're pouring oil on waters that aren't terribly troubled to begin with. ;) Can you find a link to one of those interviews? (I tried, but it's hard to Google for.) See, if the "count zero interrupt" is a legend made up by Gibson, then we shouldn't be reporting it as if it were fact. And no matter whether it turns out to be factual or fictitious, it would be nice for Wikipedia to have that information, instead of just limply reporting that Gibson is claimed to have said such-and-such with a perpetual {{fact}} tag. --Quuxplusone (talk) 03:32, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
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- If you check the last few paragraphs of the William Gibson article there's a well-sourced discussion about his relationship to technology. Here's a particularly pertinent interview:
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- Q. I thought your nanotechnology stuff in "All Tomorrow's Parties" was really interesting -- the idea of an old watch descending into a bed of nanobots and emerging brand-new. I was wondering: Are there "Neuromancer" fans who are working on nanotechnology and call you and say, "Check out what we're working on"? Do you get any "inside information"?
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- A. [laughs] In a way, I'd like to pretend I'm sort of like the Tom Clancy of cyberspace, and I hang out with these guys. And sometimes I DO hang out with them, but I'm more inclined to take note of what they're wearing.
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- A. You know, I listen to them talk about their dating problems more closely that I listen to them talk about what they're actually doing. For me, I'm pretty sure the way I use nanotechnology in these novels actually BUGS the real nanotechnologist to no end. They'd probably be inclined to dismiss me as sort of willfully lightweight about the whole thing. But when you've got somebody promising you a technology that will make everyone immortal and abolish the very concept of wealth, I just kind of throw up my hands and say, "You win -- I can't imagine that." You know -- "There's no work for me here."
- Not that it's much use as a source for the count zero conundrum, but just putting it in context. Skomorokh incite 13:06, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot (talk) 21:06, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
