Talk:Count Franz Conrad von Hötzendorf

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Please note that Conrad is the family name. --KF 21:17, 20 Dec 2003 (UTC)

thus we're actually talking Franz, Graf Conrad von Hötzendorf here... --Wetman 00:09, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I've got a German book in front of me which dates from 1883, and it renders a similar name without the comma: Colmar Freiherr von der Goltz. Mackensen (talk) 05:08, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Germans don't use commas for noble titles. This should either be where it is, or at Count Franz Conrad von Hötzendorf. john k 07:35, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

An unfortunate problem is that we have no rules for where to put articles on German nobles. (If anyone's interested, I put up a proposal at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (names and titles), but I didn't feel that there was really a consensus to implement my suggestions, nor am I sure it was the right move. But comments are welcome. john k 07:36, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

just added some comments about that. my point is to use the original version, because with translation all sorts of problem constantly arise... Antares911 00:21, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Military genius?

If he was a "military genius" as claimed in the article, why was his performance in the war so dismal? Perhaps that claim should be dropped. LeoO3 19:25, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Heavens, he's usually a figure of fun. Re-worded to reflect the reality of the situation. Mackensen (talk) 01:34, 14 December 2005 (UTC)